Re: New Stadium Updates : Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:38 am  

1.5 - The proposal is directly connected with and will contribute towards financially enabling a proposal for the redevelopment of Belle Vue Stadium, the home of Wakefield Trinity Rugby League Football Club, south of Wakefield city centre. The proposal will generate finance to support the construction of a new East Stand, refurbish the North Terrace and car parking at Belle Vue together with the refurbishment of an existing building (the Rollin Shack) to provide community facilities. This financial contribution will be secured and delivered via a Section 106 Obligation.

4.2 - Wakefield Trinity Rugby League Footbath Club as is explained in this Planning Statement, wishes to remain at its historical home, Belle Vue rather than occupying a stadium at Newmarket. That decision and the nature of redevelopment proposed at Belle Vue was the subject of extensive engagement activities undertaken by the Club with its supporter base as is described within the Planning Application for the redevelopment of Belle Vue and its supporting documentation. That community engagement informs the nature and scale of the development which is to be enabled by the Planning Application to build employment units on this part of the Newmarket Planning Permission site, as opposed to a community stadium.

There in black and white, hopefully they can't wriggle out of this one.

Re: New Stadium Updates : Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:52 am  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

There in black and white, hopefully they can't wriggle out of this one.

Yep. This is what I was told when I met MC and JM about the leaflet drop (the only time I have) but these things are not my bag and I didn't know how to phrase it correctly so I didn't want to mislead. To a layman like me, that looks very strong but I honestly don't know enough about these things to be 100% certain. Still looks good.

Re: New Stadium Updates : Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:24 pm  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

There in black and white, hopefully they can't wriggle out of this one.

I’m surprised at the figure of £8.3 million just for the East Stand and North Stand upgrade. Seems at lo to me, but then I’ve not experience of costing building work.

11.7 The financial contribution demonstrated by the viability appraisal to be affordable of £8.3m is sufficient to fund the works at Belle Vue proposed to be undertaken by Newmarket Lane Limited (the works are subject to a planning application which is being concurrently with this application). and hence capable of delivering the financial contribution to the works cost. Newmarket Lane Limited will let the contract for those works and will be the employer under that contract. It is envisaged that the contract will be let in late 2021 with a 12 month construction period. Newmarket Lane Limited and its contractor will be granted a licence by Spirit of 1873 Limited to enter onto the ground at Belle Vue for the purposes of carrying out those works. The Spirit of 1873 Limited will fund and appoint the contractor for carrying out the works that it has identified as carrying out. Between Newmarket Lane Limited and the Spirit of 1873 Limited, the entire works package will be delivered.

Official notification that the club has/will pay for all the other work around the ground.

11.3 The proposed delivery mechanism is via a Section 106 Obligation which Newmarket Lane Limited, the owner and developer of the site at Plot 8 at Newmarket commits to finance and to carry out the redevelopment works at Belle Vue, namely the new East Stand, resurfaced North Stand, car park works and refurbishment of the Rollin Shack building. In conjunction with that, the Spirit of 1873 will upgrade the flood lights, resurface the pitch as a 4G pitch and install a new electronic display screen. Work on the floodlights has already commenced. Heads of Terms for a Section 106 Obligation to secure the construction of the redevelopment of Belle Vue Stadium are attached at Appendix 2. The works proposed at Belle Vue are set out in paragraph 10.1.1 above.

Re: New Stadium Updates : Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:54 pm  

Dunkirk Spirit wrote:

I’m surprised at the figure of £8.3 million just for the East Stand and North Stand upgrade. Seems at lo to me, but then I’ve not experience of costing building work.

11.7 The financial contribution demonstrated by the viability appraisal to be affordable of £8.3m is sufficient to fund the works at Belle Vue proposed to be undertaken by Newmarket Lane Limited (the works are subject to a planning application which is being concurrently with this application). and hence capable of delivering the financial contribution to the works cost. Newmarket Lane Limited will let the contract for those works and will be the employer under that contract. It is envisaged that the contract will be let in late 2021 with a 12 month construction period. Newmarket Lane Limited and its contractor will be granted a licence by Spirit of 1873 Limited to enter onto the ground at Belle Vue for the purposes of carrying out those works. The Spirit of 1873 Limited will fund and appoint the contractor for carrying out the works that it has identified as carrying out. Between Newmarket Lane Limited and the Spirit of 1873 Limited, the entire works package will be delivered.

Official notification that the club has/will pay for all the other work around the ground.

11.3 The proposed delivery mechanism is via a Section 106 Obligation which Newmarket Lane Limited, the owner and developer of the site at Plot 8 at Newmarket commits to finance and to carry out the redevelopment works at Belle Vue, namely the new East Stand, resurfaced North Stand, car park works and refurbishment of the Rollin Shack building. In conjunction with that, the Spirit of 1873 will upgrade the flood lights, resurface the pitch as a 4G pitch and install a new electronic display screen. Work on the floodlights has already commenced. Heads of Terms for a Section 106 Obligation to secure the construction of the redevelopment of Belle Vue Stadium are attached at Appendix 2. The works proposed at Belle Vue are set out in paragraph 10.1.1 above.

Now, this is something I do get. It's actually quite cheap. The East stand is not just a stand but the hub of the club. It basically contains everything, offices, hospitality, player facilities, corporate. That's a lot of extras on top of the main construction costs. If you knock off 1.3 million for the North stand and car park hen 7 million is not much. I accept the increase in capacity is not huge but that's not really what we need. We currently have a ground that is not as well provisioned facility-wise as Lock Lane ARLFC, so for 7 million, we get catapulted from the 19th century to the 21st in one go.

I think from memory the price for Newmarket was 12 million approx in 2008 but that didn't include infrastructure and that was on a green field site. In today's money and the spec updated you'd be looking at more like 20 million now.

What this does however demonstrate is just how much YC has got away with, we will end up with something but it's still a massive scandal.

Re: New Stadium Updates : Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:59 pm  

Wonder what TRB thinks of this deal ?

Re: New Stadium Updates : Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:03 pm  

cosmicat wrote:

Wonder what TRB thinks of this deal ?

It's a deal at least, when it looked like there was never going to be one.

Re: New Stadium Updates : Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:16 pm  

Is the 8.3 million east stand yorkcourts total contribution to Wakefield trinity. I seem to remember hints being made about a new roof on the western terrace. Or will that be self funded by Wakefield and/or other parties in the future when available

Re: New Stadium Updates : Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:26 pm  

cosmicat wrote:

Wonder what TRB thinks of this deal ?

I should think he's absolutely delighted, I'll ask him if you want. He's a pragmatist like most of us, it's not what we wanted or were promised but it is what we currently need.

Re: New Stadium Updates : Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:31 pm  

WakiWildcats wrote:

Is the 8.3 million east stand yorkcourts total contribution to Wakefield trinity. I seem to remember hints being made about a new roof on the western terrace. Or will that be self funded by Wakefield and/or other parties in the future when available

Yes, there is a plan for the West terrace but it's not part of the YC deal and is on the back burner for now.

Let's be straight here if the East/North stand happens then that along with new floodlights, a new pitch, a re-purposed cats bar, that's more capital investment in 3 years than BV has seen in the last 100 years so we need to remain realistic, the west stand won't be developed for a while.

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Re: New Stadium Updates : Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:45 pm  

vastman wrote:

Yes, there is a plan for the West terrace but it's not part of the YC deal and is on the back burner for now.

Let's be straight here if the East/North stand happens then that along with new floodlights, a new pitch, a re-purposed cats bar, that's more capital investment in 3 years than BV has seen in the last 100 years so we need to remain realistic, the west stand won't be developed for a while.

That's the sensible approach I would expect. Hull KR did their ground in pieces too. Can't say for sur but I think Widnes did too.
It would be great to just magically get a whole stadium done in the off season but I'd be happy with once stand to be honest. Pitch would be great. Anything else can be add ons as we can afford.