Re: Prop Forwards : Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:58 pm  

jonh wrote:

He isn’t particularly big in relation to most props. I think what sets him apart is his attitude, work ethic and desire to be the best player he can be and make the most of what he has got.

In the modern game we are increasingly talking about “middles” rather than Props whereby the 13 and 2 on field props are concerned and whilst I think it is a shame the ball handing 13 seems to be a thing of the past, Westwood being one of the last, I think Yousef could fit into the category of a “middle” playing at 13.

He isn’t going to make huge meters but he will do the work of others in relation to taking the hard carries and putting up big numbers in defence in a similar way to what Bentley and Smithies do in a similar role and with a similar physical build to him.

I really like Bentley at St’s, reminds me of John Bateman who seems to have raw power and unbelievable work ethic.

Re: Prop Forwards : Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:23 pm  

jonh wrote:

He isn’t particularly big in relation to most props. I think what sets him apart is his attitude, work ethic and desire to be the best player he can be and make the most of what he has got.

In the modern game we are increasingly talking about “middles” rather than Props whereby the 13 and 2 on field props are concerned and whilst I think it is a shame the ball handing 13 seems to be a thing of the past, Westwood being one of the last, I think Yousef could fit into the category of a “middle” playing at 13.

He isn’t going to make huge meters but he will do the work of others in relation to taking the hard carries and putting up big numbers in defence in a similar way to what Bentley and Smithies do in a similar role and with a similar physical build to him.

Sorry, may have misled you there. When I said size I should have said physique, there are plenty of smaller props like Barry M and Gallan who've been world-class. He just looks very athletic to me, more compact more like a Phil Clarke type body. Obviously, he's not physically peaked yet so who knows his final shape.

Re: Prop Forwards : Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:11 pm  

vastman wrote:

Sorry, may have misled you there. When I said size I should have said physique, there are plenty of smaller props like Barry M and Gallan who've been world-class. He just looks very athletic to me, more compact more like a Phil Clarke type body. Obviously, he's not physically peaked yet so who knows his final shape.

He is certainly leaner that most props.

He also doesn’t carry the frame of someone like Gallen who are probably more barrel chested. He still has some growing to do but I’d expect at his peak he will be more in the Willie Isa type build, a more athletic big minutes type.

Re: Prop Forwards : Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:08 pm  

jonh wrote:

He is certainly leaner that most props.

He also doesn’t carry the frame of someone like Gallen who are probably more barrel chested. He still has some growing to do but I’d expect at his peak he will be more in the Willie Isa type build, a more athletic big minutes type.

Out of interest I checked the genetic characteristics of people of Turkish decent, which is a legitimate science before the woke brigade start! Not that I know how Turkish he actually is anyway.

So for those who are interested, being the gateway to Europe the Turks are anything from swarthy Ottoman types to almost norther European, bit like the U.K. they are a very diverse nation, so that got me absolutely nowhere.

So I’m none the wiser as to how he will end up. Still if he has a decent brain and a good attitude and plenty of ticker, like all players the sky is the limit.

Re: Prop Forwards : Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:04 pm  

vastman wrote:

Out of interest I checked the genetic characteristics of people of Turkish decent, which is a legitimate science before the woke brigade start! Not that I know how Turkish he actually is anyway.

So for those who are interested, being the gateway to Europe the Turks are anything from swarthy Ottoman types to almost norther European, bit like the U.K. they are a very diverse nation, so that got me absolutely nowhere.

So I’m none the wiser as to how he will end up. Still if he has a decent brain and a good attitude and plenty of ticker, like all players the sky is the limit.

His dad is Turkish.

He has 2 younger brothers who play, one at Eastmoor and the other at Stanley.

Both decent prospects too.

Strong running forwards.

The new rules (6 again) which look set to stay after all this Covid is over will probably benefit the smaller middles so that could also assist him.

Re: Prop Forwards : Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:57 pm  

Big lads mate wrote:

I watched Yusef at Eastmoor only played a couple of games and was green as grass but something about his physique and attitude told me he would be a good prospect hope he proves me right.

Am i right in saying he was quite late to game as in didnt start till 14s or 15s..

Re: Prop Forwards : Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:01 am  

Luppylad wrote:

Am i right in saying he was quite late to game as in didnt start till 14s or 15s..

Yes.

Played football but his game was called off so turned out for Eastmoor.

Re: Prop Forwards : Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:03 am  

jonh wrote:

His dad is Turkish.

He has 2 younger brothers who play, one at Eastmoor and the other at Stanley.

Both decent prospects too.

Strong running forwards.

The new rules (6 again) which look set to stay after all this Covid is over will probably benefit the smaller middles so that could also assist him.

Neither got scolaship although i know one was looked at but yes 2 good lads an scolaship not everything(not sure if you seen the play my eldest plaed with oe of them) ..yusef himself is a quality lad prpper down to earth helps out with scolaship lads too.his dad is turkish and he played for turkey in 2019.i really believe yusef will go well

Re: Prop Forwards : Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:06 am  

jonh wrote:

Yes.

Played football but his game was called off so turned out for Eastmoor.

Didnt know bout the footy but knew he was late coming his coach at time bash said straight away he had somthing hes a great guy too..

Re: Prop Forwards : Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:01 am  

Luppylad wrote:

Neither got scolaship although i know one was looked at but yes 2 good lads an scolaship not everything(not sure if you seen the play my eldest plaed with oe of them) ..yusef himself is a quality lad prpper down to earth helps out with scolaship lads too.his dad is turkish and he played for turkey in 2019.i really believe yusef will go well

I coach one of them and I assure you both have the potential to play professionally.

COVID and lack of rugby will not have helped either...and a good few others I may add who are in the 16-14 age groups this year.