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Re: Challenge Cupv Cats Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:50 pm  

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Happyjack I've been supporting this club so long that any bad result does not effect me any more.With in half a hour forgot about the match.But some times it just great to Wright down on here what I think about the present set up down at Bell View .Sorry if I drone on a bit\a lot .but got told a long time ago if any thing is on your mind. right it down and bin it witch I do and you will stop thinking about it .It does work .but the problem is that it only last 5 to 7 days then we play a match and the problem is there again
Re: Challenge Cupv Cats Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:16 pm  
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Happyjack I've been supporting this club so long that any bad result does not effect me any more.With in half a hour forgot about the match


Your not on your own there. It must be an age thing or should we call it maturity?
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Re: Challenge Cupv Cats Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:10 am  

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Good teams are well drilled ,so even if they lose a player they find a way to win take Cas(will wash my mouth out with soap and water) what ever player they lose in a match can even be there 6 or 7 you know they are going to compete for the rest of the game .Teams that are not as well drilled in basic rugby get nowhere and that's were we are
Re: Challenge Cupv Cats Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:02 am  

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Good teams are well drilled ,so even if they lose a player they find a way to win take Cas(will wash my mouth out with soap and water) what ever player they lose in a match can even be there 6 or 7 you know they are going to compete for the rest of the game .Teams that are not as well drilled in basic rugby get nowhere and that's were we are


That correct and it’s my point.

Something has gone wrong and it’s not as simple as just blaming the coach.

For two and a half seasons 2017 - 2019 we were just that. We were well drilled, resilient and able to claw out wins. Occasionally we were even unstoppable, ask Wigan and Hull.

Same coach and mostly the same players.

If this isn’t baffling enough the coach now has seven years as a SL coach under his belt. Whilst many of the players who were once so impressive should actually be reaching their peak, not sliding as many are.

It’s so frustrating, we should be so right and we are clearly so wrong at the moment.

Normally I’m not a million miles off as to the problem but like most ordinary fans who don’t claim any great insight, I just can’t fathom it.

None of the theories peddled on here by the doom merchants or the touch line internationals stand up to scrutiny imho.

There are snatches of the team of two years ago but never a full games worth, so frustrating.

Finally I’m not suggesting that the teams of 2017 - 19 were ever good enough to win a trophy, clearly not as they didn’t. However they were at least entertaining and sometimes gave the impression they might. As a fan of SL’s poorest club I’d be happy if we could just get back to that.
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Re: Challenge Cupv Cats Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:40 am  
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vastman wrote:
That correct and it’s my point.

Something has gone wrong and it’s not as simple as just blaming the coach.

For two and a half seasons 2017 - 2019 we were just that. We were well drilled, resilient and able to claw out wins. Occasionally we were even unstoppable, ask Wigan and Hull.

Same coach and mostly the same players.

If this isn’t baffling enough the coach now has seven years as a SL coach under his belt. Whilst many of the players who were once so impressive should actually be reaching their peak, not sliding as many are.

It’s so frustrating, we should be so right and we are clearly so wrong at the moment.

Normally I’m not a million miles off as to the problem but like most ordinary fans who don’t claim any great insight, I just can’t fathom it.

None of the theories peddled on here by the doom merchants or the touch line internationals stand up to scrutiny imho.

There are snatches of the team of two years ago but never a full games worth, so frustrating.

Finally I’m not suggesting that the teams of 2017 - 19 were ever good enough to win a trophy, clearly not as they didn’t. However they were at least entertaining and sometimes gave the impression they might. As a fan of SL’s poorest club I’d be happy if we could just get back to that.

Maybe vasty it’s stubbornness in not changing or adapting or maybe we have gone stale and it’s a case of the same voice and same thing over and over
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Re: Challenge Cupv Cats Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:06 am  
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No, it's a case of players not taking responsibility for their actions and hiding behind the perceived failure of the coach.

They play badly, Chester gets the vicious abuse, yeah that's fair, isn't it?

Funny but I bet when many of those players were desperate to convince CC to sign them on decent money they didn't think he was 'stale' then.

Why is it always the bosses fault?

I'm currently reading 'Seasons in the sun' by Dominic Sandbrook which charts the fall of the Wilson government in the late '70s. You seem to epitomise the attitude of that time, blame the bosses, up the workers/strikers and do not accept any personal responsibility.

As another poster states, it's a collective and with that comes responsibility from all and no scapegoats.
sport is about winning but adapting to situations and not doing the same things over and over and over, it’s about planning and also learning by your mistakes. Is it as good as seasons in the sun by Terry jacks
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Re: Challenge Cupv Cats Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:20 am  

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sport is about winning but adapting to situations and not doing the same things over and over and over, it’s about planning and also learning by your mistakes. Is it as good as seasons in the sun by Terry jacks


Well, we will continue to differ.

The title is based on said song and is nod to those two blisteringly hot summers.

Sandbrook is marginally right-wing but if anybody wants to know what real cowardly leadership is like then Harold Wilson last term is it. Read it and trust me Chester will seem like Churchill. :D

PS. It's over 900 pages so set a year aside :lol:
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Re: Challenge Cupv Cats Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:24 am  

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OK when are the teams out
Re: Challenge Cupv Cats Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:35 am  

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Should be today 2 days before kick off
Re: Challenge Cupv Cats Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:38 am  
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Should be today 2 days before kick off

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