Re: Chester out part 65 : Sat May 15, 2021 8:21 am  

coco the fullback wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking

Of course it's cherry picking. It's the very definition of cherry picking.
Why have you only selected games since lockdown? (I only make it 22 games since lockdown by the way).
You have selected the run of fixtures which best matches the point you wish to make. Without context.
In that run of games 68% of them were played against just 4 teams (Catalans 5 times, Leeds 4 times and Wigan & Saints 3 times each). Is this a fair or random sample?

The context of Covid, player availability and fixture pile-up were not taken into account. It is implied that the only factor is the standard of coaching.

My stats were absolutely deliberately cherry picked to emphasise how easy it is to make a case to match any argument. I am not deluded, but neither do I have an agenda to denigrate the club.

Ok i was 1 game wrong if thats what you say but its still not cherry picking if i was doing that i could say what 8 wins out of what around 47 but lets go on this s⁷eason which is a 0 % win rate or we could go on your way and go back to 60s.
At end of day only place where heading is the championship whichim sure you will be ok with cos we won a few in 2018

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Chester out part 65 : Sat May 15, 2021 8:28 am  

Travelling Wilbury wrote:

I think last night his body language says it all. He does need to go, I think for his own health and maybe even sanity.

Can't knock the effort and commitment, but make no mistake here, Leeds were awful, and were there for the taking. It was our own mistakes that cost us.

I don't know who, but we need a strict coach, with a stricter regime, with his own conditioners etc, but to be allowed to do things his way. Any players who don't want to pull rank, and be in the trenches, need to be shown the door. As somebody mentioned a few days ago, isn't it the record number of players off contract later this year.

Can honestly say at the moment, I'm very disappointed with our overseas players overall.

Must admit, as a non wakey fan, I nearly posted a week or 2 ago after a game that you should let him go, for his own sanity, his body language was terrible (not a criticism) he was slumped forward on the bench and after a mistake, his reaction was like something from a comedy film. Dramatic and tbh unprofessional.

I cant see him fixing this for you guys, even if you get a win, its weighing heavy on him as a person, do the right thing, put him out of his misery

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Re: Chester out part 65 : Sat May 15, 2021 8:33 am  

His aftermatch interview reminded me of the one last year when we beat the Farts, last year he looked very emotional but it was with relief, this time it look like resignation. I said it before, it appears from the outside that even he doesn't think he'll turn it around. When things stop being fun it's time for a change. I feel Chester himself is at this point.

Re: Chester out part 65 : Sat May 15, 2021 8:36 am  

homme vaste wrote:

Coco, I am telling you now in 6 games time, it will be too late.

Possibly, but with 13 games after that, with the only target not to finish bottom, it should be enough.
Yet another wasted season but until we can increase finances, we cannot expect to increase success.
By significant turnaround I mean it can't wait until round 12 for a win, in fact, if we lose the next 2 games it would probably be time to pull the trigger. We need to have 2 or 3 wins by round 12 and I can't see us getting much from Warrington, Cas or Wigan.
The next problem could be that of finding a better coach who is willing to come to the club mid-season.

Re: Chester out part 65 : Sat May 15, 2021 8:39 am  

coco the fullback wrote:

Possibly, but with 13 games after that, with the only target not to finish bottom, it should be enough.
Yet another wasted season but until we can increase finances, we cannot expect to increase success.
By significant turnaround I mean it can't wait until round 12 for a win, in fact, if we lose the next 2 games it would probably be time to pull the trigger. We need to have 2 or 3 wins by round 12 and I can't see us getting much from Warrington, Cas or Wigan.
The next problem could be that of finding a better coach who is willing to come to the club mid-season.

I agree Coco, in our next 3 we play; Hull KR, Hudds and Leigh, if we are still without a win after that then there is no doubt in my mind Chester just has to go.

Re: Chester out part 65 : Sat May 15, 2021 8:55 am  

Chester should go now. If we lose the next three we are down.

Re: Chester out part 65 : Sat May 15, 2021 10:00 am  

I agree with a few other posters, Chris looked shocking during and after the match. The last time I can remember someone looking that bad was Steadman when Trin slammed Cas at the Jungle.

Regardless of the state of the team, relegation etc someone needs to make a decision and get him out of the firing line for his own good.

Re: Chester out part 65 : Sat May 15, 2021 10:03 am  

lampyboy wrote:

131 I have stated that MC saved the club and provided a level of funding that saw the club develop but things have gone stagnent and not moved on to the next level
. I take it you know the clubs finances to be able to state moneys not available. MC seems to think he's taken the club as far as he can and if that's the case so be it.
Wollo
Its up to the club to look at raising funds. accountants in general tend to look at a figure and work around it or cut the cloth accordinly( survival).

I have no idea what the clubs finances are , but I know the pathetic number that follow the club and buy ST's.
It doesn't take much to work out that we don't have the funds of the vast majority of other SL clubs. to splash out on players.
I want the same as you, but what we need is a big backer, because without one, I think we're always going to be 'cutting the cloth accordingly'.
We've rode our luck in previous seasons but I feel lady luck is not with us this season!

Re: Chester out part 65 : Sat May 15, 2021 10:11 am  

Talking about finances, where’s the Andrew Fifita money?

Re: Chester out part 65 : Sat May 15, 2021 10:18 am  

Lockers700 wrote:

Talking about finances, where’s the Andrew Fifita money?

That's a good question - perhaps there was going to be a sponsor for that - similar to when Wally Lewis came?