Re: Moore : Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:59 am  

Travelling Wilbury wrote:

Stop blaming refs every week. They don't make handling errors or concede silly penalties. The mentality of a lot of our fans blame them all the time, rather than looking inward

Every week when we hear who the ref is, you hear, "well thats us beat"

I watched the game back last night, and I think we had some marginal forward passes go our way.

The thing is that we are on the wrong end of the 6 again and ball steal count pretty much every game regardless of who is in charge. We never seem to learn and dare I say lack professionalism in many ways. I have never seen a team concede so many penalties whilst in possession of the ball .. criminal !

Re: Moore : Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:55 pm  

Travelling Wilbury wrote:

Stop blaming refs every week. They don't make handling errors or concede silly penalties. The mentality of a lot of our fans blame them all the time, rather than looking inward

Every week when we hear who the ref is, you hear, "well thats us beat"

I watched the game back last night, and I think we had some marginal forward passes go our way.

I accept all the comments regarding the inadequacies of our play, which contributed greatly to our downfall, but that doesn't stop the FACT that Moore was biased towards the opposition. It is possible that referees can affect results , you know!!

Re: Moore : Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:21 pm  

Going slightly off topic on the referees decision making. But I see them as part of the games that are played, and it would be nice to hear there comments of the game they officiated, especially as the coaches have to come out and face the media straight after the whistle, sometimes seething on the decisions the officials may have made. I know this will never happen, but sometimes one decision can change the result of a game.

Re: Moore : Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:30 pm  

westgaterunner wrote:

Going slightly off topic on the referees decision making. But I see them as part of the games that are played, and it would be nice to hear there comments of the game they officiated, especially as the coaches have to come out and face the media straight after the whistle, sometimes seething on the decisions the officials may have made. I know this will never happen, but sometimes one decision can change the result of a game.

I agree whole heartedly with what you say.
I also disagree with the fallacy that, like judges in the law courts, they are infallible and not responsible to anyone else for their decisions. I would love to see a referee come on the TV and apologise to fans and say. " Sorry! I got it wrong", but i can't see that happening any time soon.

Re: Moore : Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:09 am  

Was chatting to an ex-ref at the station on the way home - he said that Moore had "a shocker"

Re: Moore : Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:33 am  

Redscat wrote:

I agree whole heartedly with what you say.
I also disagree with the fallacy that, like judges in the law courts, they are infallible and not responsible to anyone else for their decisions. I would love to see a referee come on the TV and apologise to fans and say. " Sorry! I got it wrong", but i can't see that happening any time soon.

At least judges give a summary of the evidence before their judgement, which becomes the test case for that offence or adds to previous judgements to try to maintain consistency in the law...refs have nothing similar that's ever in the public domain, if they do have a shocker their disciplinary equivalent is behind closed doors and the reasons they are stood down for the next week(s) are never revealed...opportunity missed or what

Re: Moore : Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:27 pm  

steve1g wrote:

At least judges give a summary of the evidence before their judgement, which becomes the test case for that offence or adds to previous judgements to try to maintain consistency in the law...refs have nothing similar that's ever in the public domain, if they do have a shocker their disciplinary equivalent is behind closed doors and the reasons they are stood down for the next week(s) are never revealed...opportunity missed or what

Exactly!! You've captured much more succinctly what I was trying to say myself Steve. Referees seem to have the opinion of themselves that they are answerable to God and no one else.

[PopTart]

Re: Moore : Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:43 am  

They are doing a job.
Why would their review have anything to do with fans?

Re: Moore : Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:50 am  

PopTart wrote:

They are doing a job.
Why would their review have anything to do with fans?

Club reps cant comment without getting fined.
We are purchasers of the product of which they are part of quality control.

Re: Moore : Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:03 pm  

Somebody has to make the decisions during game time it can't be outsourced to fans, or journo's.
The ref has to feel comfortable that he can make the calls on the spot without the pressure of frame by frame critique days after the fact outside his immediate peers, or else who the hell would do it.
Who in their right mind would accept a weekly quiz barrage of if buts and maybe's from a bunch of twitbook loons embittered by losing a game.
Ref's are human, they make mistakes, its impossible to get every call to everyone's liking especially when opinions are so partisan.
He had a bad game for us, it may be the other way round next week, accept > move on.