Re: Proposed Structure 2.0 : Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:34 pm  

If I take off my Trinity hat and put on my rugby league hat, I would go for a ten-team league and increase the salary cap. One of the problems we have at the moment is that the stars of the game frequently go to Aus; to test themselves against the best and for more money. Take away some of the cash incentive and then make the game better here, by being more competitive, and as a game we will produce more stars.

Let's be honest with ourselves: do you think any fan in St Helens or Wigan or Warrington looks forward to the visit from Wakey? And what about the players? It's just a blip until the next competitive game, and sometimes we benefit from that. The view from anyone outside Wakefield is that we don't bring much to the party and never have.

A sixteen-team is a non-starter. The money-share is too small for everyone and the talent pool isn't there. The fact that we may be left out after the end of the first season is down to us, for poor recruitment, because as long as we finish tenth or higher, we're in. By that point, the stadium may be on the way to completion and we may begin to grow as a club. Until we perform on the field, however, we won't be in it.

A conference system would be more ideal, as there is a prospect of more derbies. Even the top clubs might get sick of endless Wigan/Saints, etc, but then again, if there is a lot riding on every game, maybe not. But what happens when that doesn't improve things? Eight-teams?

Re: Proposed Structure 2.0 : Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:58 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

If I take off my Trinity hat and put on my rugby league hat, I would go for a ten-team league and increase the salary cap. One of the problems we have at the moment is that the stars of the game frequently go to Aus; to test themselves against the best and for more money. Take away some of the cash incentive and then make the game better here, by being more competitive, and as a game we will produce more stars.

Let's be honest with ourselves: do you think any fan in St Helens or Wigan or Warrington looks forward to the visit from Wakey? And what about the players? It's just a blip until the next competitive game, and sometimes we benefit from that. The view from anyone outside Wakefield is that we don't bring much to the party and never have.

A sixteen-team is a non-starter. The money-share is too small for everyone and the talent pool isn't there. The fact that we may be left out after the end of the first season is down to us, for poor recruitment, because as long as we finish tenth or higher, we're in. By that point, the stadium may be on the way to completion and we may begin to grow as a club. Until we perform on the field, however, we won't be in it.

A conference system would be more ideal, as there is a prospect of more derbies. Even the top clubs might get sick of endless Wigan/Saints, etc, but then again, if there is a lot riding on every game, maybe not. But what happens when that doesn't improve things? Eight-teams?

You mentioned they point it's about business and finance and not really about the development and participation in sport. Less games less teams I believe will kill the game off totally

Re: Proposed Structure 2.0 : Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:55 pm  

REDWHITEANDBLUE wrote:

You mentioned they point it's about business and finance and not really about the development and participation in sport. Less games less teams I believe will kill the game off totally

On the other hand, a vibrant and exciting league that attracts spectators and sponsors and TV exposure will do that, in theory.

I don't know what the answer is, but whether we take part in the top or second league is in our hands.

Re: Proposed Structure 2.0 : Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:37 am  

Playing each other 3 times will lose the effect of a good derby match it will be boring.

Re: Proposed Structure 2.0 : Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:57 am  

Am I wrong but I read it as a 20 team SL in 2 divisions, so lower division would still be SL , also didn't they say that money differences between the 2 division's would less and that they would try to get a tv deal for the lower division? It would not be like going into the championship

Re: Proposed Structure 2.0 : Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:07 am  

It won’t take them long to make the top division a closed shop. If and we probably will go down I think the chance of getting promoted would be very slim

Re: Proposed Structure 2.0 : Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:36 am  

normycat wrote:

It won’t take them long to make the top division a closed shop. If and we probably will go down I think the chance of getting promoted would be very slim

Exactly this and right now, Trinity would never gain promotion with the state of our facilities and any lingering chance of getting the ground improved would disappear, as there would be even less cash swilling around than now.
Many fans of those clubs that are "relegated" would walk away and the game shrinks further and faster.

How long would it be before the 10 clubs went to 8 ,6, 4, 2 and then none.

Re: Proposed Structure 2.0 : Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:46 pm  

Wouldn’t it be funny in 23 if this crazy proposal goes through if Wigan Warrington or Leeds had an injury hit season and finished bottom 4! The rules would be very quickly reversed
How about less funding with clubs not wasting money on overseas dross like many have done since 1996 and instead develop young British talent

Re: Proposed Structure 2.0 : Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:02 pm  

normycat wrote:

It won’t take them long to make the top division a closed shop. If and we probably will go down I think the chance of getting promoted would be very slim

Strictly-speaking, a 1 in 10 chance, although I suspect we would be one of the bigger clubs in a lower league.

The reality is that whether we are in it is in our hands, no one else's. Are we saying it wouldn't be fair because we will finish eleventh? I can't wait for that season. It sounds super-exciting.

Provided they maintain promotion and relegation, someone has to come up. One year, it will be us. The real issue will arise when one of the favourite teams goes down. In fact, the yo-yo teams will be us, Salford, Leigh, Huddersfield, Cas and Toulouse.

As it stands, with our performances over the last three seasons, our "success" (if you can call it that) has depended on a weak side coming up. That doesn't exactly puts bums on seats either.

Re: Proposed Structure 2.0 : Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:34 pm  

We have a SL squad of players experienced at playing regularly at this level. The two teams promoted for the majority of their squads will not therefore we must take this opportunity to strengthen the current squad even if it pushes our financial resources. We get one season to get this right because if we fail and are relegated we all know that the team will fracture and we will be back to square one.
I wonder if we would return to part time like MC suggested before the Bradford game. It is time to speculate to accumulate, you never know this might generate additional revenue with increased interest and support. It is not the time for prudence because we cannot fail and it is still in our hands which makes a change from previous threats of relegation.