Re: Promotion and Relegation : Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:41 pm  

Are you watching in black and white Wakey Trin.

Re: Promotion and Relegation : Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:43 pm  

Wow come on fax

Re: Promotion and Relegation : Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:45 pm  

On the 1st game as A Walker put on weight?

Re: Promotion and Relegation : Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:24 pm  

Go on I'll say it, Grix has learnt to kick the ball dead *ducks*

Re: Promotion and Relegation : Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:35 pm  

alegend wrote:

So it's' nothing to do with the coaching ,or a half who was playing in is dinner jacket

I’m sure you never read posts properly. Almost every poster has state Smith is an excellent coach. So please feel free to apologies.

Re: Promotion and Relegation : Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:00 pm  

vastman wrote:

I’m sure you never read posts properly. Almost every poster has state Smith is an excellent coach. So please feel free to apologies.

I think he is saying Tony Smith is a good coach and there position in the league is not down to games they've missed.

Re: Promotion and Relegation : Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:01 pm  

cheshirecat57 wrote:

I think he is saying Tony Smith is a good coach and there position in the league is not down to games they've missed.

It is though as Cas would have been 6th with 11 wins.

Re: Promotion and Relegation : Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:41 am  

cheshirecat57 wrote:

I think he is saying Tony Smith is a good coach and there position in the league is not down to games they've missed.

I get that but it was exactly what many had already stated so why his sardonic tone.

Also number of games played made a big difference, it’s unprecedented in a league system like ours that all teams don’t play the same number of games.

It’s a bit sad for teams like Saints and maybe HKR but the truth is anything won in this season or last is devalued. Its not worthless but by no stretch is it normal.

As a Trin fan I’ve no axe to grind as we seem to be reliably unsuccessful no matter what the situation is

I believe you can tell that fans can’t be fooled by the attendance figures for the play off games. I’m not sure all fans will come back but I think more will return next season if it looks like being the real deal again.

The way SL has handled the situation has been a disaster and robbed the game of all credibility. Yet it could have been so simple, you can’t fulfill a fixture whatever the reason then the points go to the others team, it was that simple and most fans knew that.

Re: Promotion and Relegation : Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:54 am  

Going back to the idea of franchise, I do like the idea of franchising in the whole. But unfortunately this is the RFL and super league we are talking about and after the last fiasco trying it would you want them to over see it’s adoption again? We have two governing bodies at loggerheads still fighting for power and neither one of them really interested in the good of them game as a whole. To say that franchising would be help to blood young players is wishful thinking as I can’t remember that happening last time and do believe if looking back that we probably had as many if not more old and overseas players than we do now. It definitely felt like it. I also remember that on here there were a lot of people calling for p&r to be reinstated as the competition was boring with not much to play for.
Until we have one governing body again with the interest of the game and transparency with decision making and stop changing the goal lists to suit agenda’s(ie. why the goal posts were changed to allow Toulouse into the championship play offs after not meeting the required played games) for one. Then I see it as we will stay on this downward spiral.
How this is going to change I do not know but for the sake of RL it is going to have.
I believe a good franchise system could work well but it would have be from a strong RL body with a genuine interest in making it worth while and financially beneficial to the clubs not in the top tier to survive and for real pathways for amateur clubs who want to be more than that to be able to do this or what’s the point. Wouldn’t a Hemel Hempstead for arguments sake be better gaining professional status after years of working hard to build in a non RL area than the RFL imposing a new club on a large non RL city just to show they want expansion?
Would take a strong person to get us back to one sport again and not this fragmented mess.
Wow now I’ve said all I think about this now. Sorry lol

Re: Promotion and Relegation : Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:11 am  

WakiWildcats wrote:

Watching Hull KR this season after finishing bottom of the league last year can’t believe this hasn’t been discussed more. Normal year last year and Hull KR would have been battling it out in the championship. They’ve invested heavily in youth over the last couple of years and are now seeing the results. Surely a licensing system needs to be brought back in to give teams the chance to blood younger players without the threat of relegation every year. I know it’s not as simple as that with expansion etc all on the cards but we seem to copy a lot of what the Aussie league does apart from this and the gap between the 2 leagues has never been bigger than now

In "normal" times, KR wouldn't have been relegated, as the season finished without Toronto who were effectively the relegated side.
The real difference with KR is their coach who is probably the best coach in the SL era.
Every club that Smith has been at have improved massively, Huddersfield, Leeds, Wire and now KR, the guy clearly knows what he is doing.
He gambled heavily a couple of seasons back and brought in lots of young players, many of whom have developed into quality SL players.
Watching them get just one game away from the GF is just frustrating as we have beaten them twice but, it does show that with some luck, any side can do it.
Salford in 2019 and now KR in 2021 should be used for us to believe that Trinity can have a good go.

As for licensing, be careful what you wish for, Trinity may not make the final cut, especially without some significant work on the ground.