[Kosh]

Re: Moa : Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:28 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Maybe, but he's right this time

Hardly. My opinion of the tackle is unchanged, and I doubt that anyone else has changed their opinion either. On either side of the argument. It's just that some of us are grown up enough to have differences of opinion without childish attempts at point scoring.

[Kosh]

Re: Moa : Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:32 pm  

Chris28 wrote:

Did James Rule represent him at the hearing?

Anyway, let's move on. No point in appealing the sentence if the RFLP can increase it.

There's no point in appealing the sentence because we were dumb enough to plead guilty to a charge we've spent the last 48 hours denying.

The full case notes should make interesting reading when published.

Re: Moa : Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:33 pm  

Kosh wrote:

Hardly. My opinion of the tackle is unchanged, and I doubt that anyone else has changed their opinion either. On either side of the argument. It's just that some of us are grown up enough to have differences of opinion without childish attempts at point scoring.

Your opinion of the tackle may not have changed, but it now seems to differ 100% than that of:
The Player, The Club and the Diciplinary Board.......I doubt anyone, even Listy, needs childish attempts at point scoring given the player has received and accepted his additional punishment, although it would appear that you'd now feel better if you could secure the moral high ground

Re: Moa : Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:34 pm  

Kosh wrote:

There's no point in appealing the sentence because we were dumb enough to plead guilty to a charge we've spent the last 48 hours denying.

The full case notes should make interesting reading when published.

Could we not appeal the length of the ban, despite the guilty plea?

Re: Moa : Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:37 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Your opinion of the tackle may not have changed, but it now seems to differ 100% than that of:
The Player, The Club and the Diciplinary Board.......I doubt anyone, even Listy, needs childish attempts at point scoring given the player has received and accepted his additional punishment, although it would appear that you'd now feel better if you could secure the moral high ground

Yeah your right nobody has ever pleaded guilty to something they didn't believe they were guilty of because they knew they would get shafted anyway. Oh and calling him "Listy" just makes you both look like knobs.

Re: Moa : Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:42 pm  

I really don't understand the guilty plea if it was to try and get less games. The maximum punishment for that grade is 2 games isn't it? Why not plead not guilty and accept the chance of 2 games? By pleading guilty they just gave them the perfect excuse to back the red card without even having to prove it was the correct decision so a ban was bound to follow.

[Kosh]

Re: Moa : Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:45 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Your opinion of the tackle may not have changed, but it now seems to differ 100% than that of:
The Player, The Club and the Diciplinary Board.......I doubt anyone, even Listy, needs childish attempts at point scoring given the player has received and accepted his additional punishment, although it would appear that you'd now feel better if you could secure the moral high ground

Ummm... Moa and the club didn't just accept anything. They tried and failed to get the charge reduced to a level that would avoid a ban. Or were you so quick to attempt your oh-so-mature internet warrior point scoring that you failed to actually read the club statement?

I'll wait and see what the actual submission from the club was before making a final comment on this. It looks like a badly misjudged attempt at a plea bargain and I'd have preferred us to stand behind the position adopted over the last 48 hours, but there may be something more to it than that.

[Kosh]

Re: Moa : Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:48 pm  

Chris28 wrote:

Could we not appeal the length of the ban, despite the guilty plea?

He's been given the minimum sentence for an offence that he apparently pleaded guilty to. Where's the grounds for appeal?

Unless our case was that he wasn't guilty of a Grade B offence but was guilty of a Grade A offence. That might hold a sliver of a chance but TBH it would more likely be a waste of time and effort.

Re: Moa : Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:53 pm  

Kosh wrote:

He's been given the minimum sentence for an offence that he apparently pleaded guilty to. Where's the grounds for appeal?

Unless our case was that he wasn't guilty of a Grade B offence but was guilty of a Grade A offence. That might hold a sliver of a chance but TBH it would more likely be a waste of time and effort.

Just putting ideas out there. Not sure how or why we would tbh

Re: Moa : Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:08 pm  

When you look at Tommy's two matches and Sam's one plus the time he spent off the pitch on Sunday it looks a tad unjust.

I await the next shoulder charge with anticipation, I want consistency and there has been precious little of that from Red Hall over the years.