Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:03 pm  

A benefit of Myler being in the role is he has only just retired so his contact list is fresh. I think a key ingredient in a Director Of Rugby responsible for signings is having a good contact book and that gets harder to maintain over time. Some signings in the game seem to come quickly from rumours a player is unhappy more a club want rid to free up salary cap space. I bet a lot of informal business is done with calls, messages and rumours.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:31 pm  

Like most on here I was fairly stunned when Myler's appointment was announced earlier this year, a real bolt out of the blue to say the least. I also get the impression it raised a few eyebrows across the wider game as a whole.

But I think most of us would agree he has carried himself well since arriving at the club and he increasingly looks like he has a clear idea of where the club needs to go and, more importantly, he has a clear idea of how we go about redressing the numerous problems that have bedevilled us over the recent past.

I have said before that I do feel his hands were unquestionably tied when it came to player recruitment for next year. Trying to 'sell' Hull Fc to prospective incoming players must have been incredibly difficult during 2024, and I feel we have a squad which has been specifically designed for a purpose, namely to stop the boat from listing badly in choppy waters. I feel the aim is to show that we have stopped sliding backwards and we are once more a club moving in a positive direction which, hopefully, will make recruiting higher quality players a more viable possibility as Richie will be able to sell the club with a good deal more evidence of where we are heading than he was almost certainly able to do this year.

It goes without saying that there is still an awful lot of hard work to be done, both on and off the field, before we start to challenge for honours again, but maybe, after all our initial reservations, Myler's appointment may prove to be an inspired moment that altered the course of where we were going (nowhere essentially!). Sometimes with successful clubs it's not always the obvious signings which ultimately make the biggest difference but the ones whose true worth only becomes apparent further down the line, and maybe that will prove to be the case with Richie.

Only time will tell whether this is when Hull Fc woke up again and started the fightback to where we should be, or whether it is merely the latest in long line of false dawns. But reading this board over the past couple of weeks it is clear that there is a renewed sense of optimism, energy and enthusiasm for the club, and the way Myler has conducted himself of late has undoubtedly contributed to that feeling. On arriving earlier this year he promised to reconnect the club to its fan base and I would say he is beginning to fulfil on that promise, let's hope he continues in this regard.

I'm still not expecting a gigantic leap upwards over the next twelve months, and still believe 2025 may be another hard watch, but I do believe we are once more moving the right direction and, like most of us on here, I am way more positive and optimistic about the club than I was even two months ago, so thank the lord for that!!

Keep the faith, as always
(And that's my long-winded diatribe done for today, as one of Wilf's long time disciples )

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:41 pm  

UllFC wrote:

Regardless of the system I think the Championship needs to get rid of its playoffs, crowds for the final aren't huge anyway and we risk a team winning the league with ease and then losing the final. Having a final also reduces the time they can confirm recruitment for next season.

Under the above idea in theory a 6th placed GradeB Championship team with indifferent results could fluke a Grand Final win and replace an SL team who are a much higher standard on the field. And result would be the promoted team getting hammered next season while relegated team cruise to winning the Championship which is pointless for all.

Think I mentioned in a post yesterday that I reckon the proposal will be rejected precisely on the grounds that you outline above. There would be a risk that a club like Doncaster, say, could replace someone like Salford or Huddersfield (or even Hull Fc!!!) which ultimately only weakens the competition as a whole if the promoted side are palpably incapable of competing at even a basic level.

I don't see this proposal getting through, but then it is rugby league we are talking about here so you can never be too sure in situations like these!!

[Bullseye]

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:02 pm  

I think the author of this proposal (Batley) would say that the SL would have to be in last position to be relegated.

[Chris71]

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:31 pm  

BP1 wrote:

Like most on here I was fairly stunned when Myler's appointment was announced earlier this year, a real bolt out of the blue to say the least. I also get the impression it raised a few eyebrows across the wider game as a whole.

But I think most of us would agree he has carried himself well since arriving at the club and he increasingly looks like he has a clear idea of where the club needs to go and, more importantly, he has a clear idea of how we go about redressing the numerous problems that have bedevilled us over the recent past.

I have said before that I do feel his hands were unquestionably tied when it came to player recruitment for next year. Trying to 'sell' Hull Fc to prospective incoming players must have been incredibly difficult during 2024, and I feel we have a squad which has been specifically designed for a purpose, namely to stop the boat from listing badly in choppy waters. I feel the aim is to show that we have stopped sliding backwards and we are once more a club moving in a positive direction which, hopefully, will make recruiting higher quality players a more viable possibility as Richie will be able to sell the club with a good deal more evidence of where we are heading than he was almost certainly able to do this year.

It goes without saying that there is still an awful lot of hard work to be done, both on and off the field, before we start to challenge for honours again, but maybe, after all our initial reservations, Myler's appointment may prove to be an inspired moment that altered the course of where we were going (nowhere essentially!). Sometimes with successful clubs it's not always the obvious signings which ultimately make the biggest difference but the ones whose true worth only becomes apparent further down the line, and maybe that will prove to be the case with Richie.

Only time will tell whether this is when Hull Fc woke up again and started the fightback to where we should be, or whether it is merely the latest in long line of false dawns. But reading this board over the past couple of weeks it is clear that there is a renewed sense of optimism, energy and enthusiasm for the club, and the way Myler has conducted himself of late has undoubtedly contributed to that feeling. On arriving earlier this year he promised to reconnect the club to its fan base and I would say he is beginning to fulfil on that promise, let's hope he continues in this regard.

I'm still not expecting a gigantic leap upwards over the next twelve months, and still believe 2025 may be another hard watch, but I do believe we are once more moving the right direction and, like most of us on here, I am way more positive and optimistic about the club than I was even two months ago, so thank the lord for that!!

Keep the faith, as always
(And that's my long-winded diatribe done for today, as one of Wilf's long time disciples )

Agree re Myler as think everyone was taken aback when he was announced as the clubs DoR, I said at the time I was willing to give him the benefit of doubt in part due to the success that another recently retired player had with us in Motu.
I'll be honest regardless of his relationship with AT, RM won't have been given the role just because he's with his daughter. I've worked and dealt with many successful business people over the years who won't just put people in positions for the sake of it, they still have to show that they are capable to do the role.

All the changes and the news of AT becoming the new owner of the club has really giving the whole club and fan base a lift the leadership brought in is also a significant step forward.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Nov 20, 2024 3:00 pm  

Chris71 wrote:

Agree re Myler as think everyone was taken aback when he was announced as the clubs DoR, I said at the time I was willing to give him the benefit of doubt in part due to the success that another recently retired player had with us in Motu.

I'll be honest regardless of his relationship with AT, RM won't have been given the role just because he's with his daughter. I've worked and dealt with many successful business people over the years who won't just put people in positions for the sake of it, they still have to show that they are capable to do the role.

All the changes and the news of AT becoming the new owner of the club has really giving the whole club and fan base a lift the leadership brought in is also a significant step forward.

Agree with this.
No one is going to make a substantial investment in any business and then place an incompetent person in a vital role, irrespective of any family connections.
In fact, there are any number of middle-aged blokes who tend to have a dim view of their prospective son-in-law so it doesn't naturally follow family connections lead to better job prospects!!
The evidence is that Thirkill believes that Myler is the right man for the job ahead. Let's hope this proves to be the inspired appointment I hinted at above.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Nov 20, 2024 3:11 pm  

Roam Ranger wrote: https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/rugby-leagues-hypocritical-restructure-proposal-9729122 More on the proposal. It would be the lowest placed Grade B team that would go down. So in theory, should there be only one Grade B side in SL and they finish top, go the full season undefeated and win the treble they would still be relegated? Yeah i can't see that proposal going far.

Roam Ranger wrote: https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/rugby-leagues-hypocritical-restructure-proposal-9729122 More on the proposal. It would be the lowest placed Grade B team that would go down. So in theory, should there be only one Grade B side in SL and they finish top, go the full season undefeated and win the treble they would still be relegated? Yeah i can't see that proposal going far.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Nov 20, 2024 3:37 pm  

Why is RL in a position where a club the size of Batley can table something like this? Why don't the rfl have control over the structure of the competitions?

[Chris71]

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Nov 20, 2024 3:49 pm  

Steve0 wrote:

Why is RL in a position where a club the size of Batley can table something like this? Why don't the rfl have control over the structure of the competitions?

Because this is the RFL we are talking about

It should either be any team that finishes top in the Championship gets promotion (should they meet the criteria and grading) and the team that finishes bottom of SL gets relegated whether A or B grade, they simply allow 2 up next year and expand the league.