Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Fri Feb 07, 2025 2:52 pm  

The Dentist Wilf wrote:

I'm not sure if the due Diligence isn't taking longer than expected but your right there is certainly a delay.

What is Jepson worth, had a quick look and couldn't find it.

Probably worried about the cost of getting their stadium upto standard.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Fri Feb 07, 2025 3:05 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

What is Jepson worth, had a quick look and couldn't find it.

Probably worried about the cost of getting their stadium upto standard.

No I can't find it but this is what I read about

Castleford Tigers extend Martin Jepson’s option purchase deadline until end of April with “deeper investigation” needed into “some areas”

[Chris71]

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Fri Feb 07, 2025 3:18 pm  

UllFC wrote:

Dave K. wrote:

Seems all 12 clubs now have wealthy owners, time to put their heads together, get the right TV deal and get the sport moving in the right direction.

Can't see a better opportunity.

Also all clubs in a good position, so harder to sign players and the NRL will be looking more at our players, so youth players become more and more important.

If all the owners are genuinely wealthy then maybe it is time to say to SKY improve the deal or we're off.

Putting games on streaming with some key games on BBC/Channel4 is a big financial gamble but something has to change. Also need to factor in the cost of filming the games. That said even the BBC would cough up more if you were giving them games like the season opener, Good Friday and the Grand Final rather than 3rd choice pick.

The question is could the game currently afford to dump SKY? Is it that the the RFL haven't really marketed or sold the game well enough or indeed at all to the other TV and media outlets or is there simply not enough significant interest from other parties willing to pay to screen live games?
I can't remember the specifics of the new SKY deal as to if there was a limit to games that could be broadcast outside of SKY but seem to remember TNT Sports and DAZN were in the running for the rights but the RFL chose SKY. That said you'd think that a good marketer would have been able to have sold the rights to broadcast a handful of games to either TNT or DAZN.

For me the RFL just don't seem to market themselves well enough and it appears from the outside its more comfortable/easier for them to stay within the norm as in stick with SKY like they have since the inception of SL than push outside of the comfort zone and work hard to secure better.

[Chris71]

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Fri Feb 07, 2025 3:25 pm  

The Dentist Wilf wrote:

Dave K. wrote:

What is Jepson worth, had a quick look and couldn't find it.

Probably worried about the cost of getting their stadium upto standard.

No I can't find it but this is what I read about

Castleford Tigers extend Martin Jepson’s option purchase deadline until end of April with “deeper investigation” needed into “some areas”

I could be way off in my thoughts Pete but imagine it may well be something to do with the level of investment required elsewhere in terms of the facilities on top of any investment in the club itself given that Cas potentially face the very real threat of being in a fight at the bottom and the financial consequences of relegation.

As I say I could be wrong and it maybe just be a case of simply ironing out a few minor details, who knows.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Fri Feb 07, 2025 3:37 pm  

The Dentist Wilf wrote:

I fear it may be one of them.

I also see the RFL have just announced that the points system for misdemeanours has now sensibly been deemed to start from 1st January and with not see a carry over from last year's transgressions. Ligi will l be pleased

I guess its more down to pressure from the clubs rather than a decision by the RFL that they have climbed down but sense finally sees the light .

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Fri Feb 07, 2025 3:38 pm  

From what I've read on the Cas/Jepson situation I think he's looking to get extra investors on board before completing the takeover but there doesn't seem to be much interest and the takeover is in the balance.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Fri Feb 07, 2025 4:20 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Salford take over done, good for the game. Hope the fans back them now.

As mentioned before, a fire sale at Salford wouldn't have been good for us.

Certainly not if we had signed Cross
Need now to be aiming a lot higher with more quality

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Fri Feb 07, 2025 4:59 pm  

UllFC wrote:

If all the owners are genuinely wealthy then maybe it is time to say to SKY improve the deal or we're off.

Putting games on streaming with some key games on BBC/Channel4 is a big financial gamble but something has to change. Also need to factor in the cost of filming the games. That said even the BBC would cough up more if you were giving them games like the season opener, Good Friday and the Grand Final rather than 3rd choice pick.

Super league needs to pull away from the RFL and align themselves to teams in the NRL.
That alone would would enhance the game in the UK when you have Aussie fans and media following their UK team
Increase the cap substantially so that the UK game has a lot more superstars on view.Thats the way you can really start to market the game when R/L superstars become household names and people start to follow them and the game.
The interlink of an Aussie club and a UK club could also be used as an outside quota means of a limited interchange of players during a season.
TV will always follow success and trying to get TV deals for a product that lacks an audience and Superstars is the wrong way round.
The NRL is a great product but they also spend big on marketing and dont stand still.
The RFL have over the years proved to be not fit for purpose so if we now have a sport where most of the S/L teams have wealthy owners it should be time to ditch the RFL and IMG with it.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Fri Feb 07, 2025 5:05 pm  

Chris71 wrote:

The question is could the game currently afford to dump SKY? Is it that the the RFL haven't really marketed or sold the game well enough or indeed at all to the other TV and media outlets or is there simply not enough significant interest from other parties willing to pay to screen live games?
I can't remember the specifics of the new SKY deal as to if there was a limit to games that could be broadcast outside of SKY but seem to remember TNT Sports and DAZN were in the running for the rights but the RFL chose SKY. That said you'd think that a good marketer would have been able to have sold the rights to broadcast a handful of games to either TNT or DAZN.

For me the RFL just don't seem to market themselves well enough and it appears from the outside its more comfortable/easier for them to stay within the norm as in stick with SKY like they have since the inception of SL than push outside of the comfort zone and work hard to secure better.

I can't imagine the RFL have turned up for negotiations in the past looking organised with a crack team of negotiatiors. I can also see from SKYs point of view that SL has gone for ideas they weren't in favour of previously, under the Super8s system for example they were having to show games involving Championship teams scheduled at short notice.

I'm not sure having a 3rd broadcaster is an option because most fans wouldent pay for a 3rd service just to see a handful pf games. I go down the pub for TNT Champions League games rather than subscribe for example.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Fri Feb 07, 2025 6:04 pm  

bonaire wrote:

Super league needs to pull away from the RFL and align themselves to teams in the NRL.
That alone would would enhance the game in the UK when you have Aussie fans and media following their UK team
Increase the cap substantially so that the UK game has a lot more superstars on view.Thats the way you can really start to market the game when R/L superstars become household names and people start to follow them and the game.
The interlink of an Aussie club and a UK club could also be used as an outside quota means of a limited interchange of players during a season.
TV will always follow success and trying to get TV deals for a product that lacks an audience and Superstars is the wrong way round.
The NRL is a great product but they also spend big on marketing and dont stand still.
The RFL have over the years proved to be not fit for purpose so if we now have a sport where most of the S/L teams have wealthy owners it should be time to ditch the RFL and IMG with it.

For me the problem with the NRL is that when Aussie’s talk about the potential of the game over here they seem to think that there’s huge untapped potential in big cities like London, Birmingham etc and just assume that they’ll be successful like they have in Melbourne growing the game if they put SL teams in big cities. People say ‘marketing’ like it’s a magic wand.

Don’t get me wrong I’d trust them to make a better fist of expansion then the RFL, but I don’t think they understand the dominance of football and how difficult it would be. I also think they’d underestimate the tribalism of supporters and try to merge some of the big clubs and think it could be a disaster.