Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Sun Feb 09, 2025 11:35 am  

Was hoping out days of chopping and changing too much, we're coming to an end. Still hoping the Staveley rumours aren't true.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Sun Feb 09, 2025 11:45 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Was hoping out days of chopping and changing too much, we're coming to an end. Still hoping the Staveley rumours aren't true.

The writing has been on the wall. His old man was saying he’s the forgotten man and that there’s people at the club stealing a living as far back as November.

He’s obviously unhappy for whatever reason, it’s a shame as he might be a top player but if he wants to move on maybe best for both in the long run.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Sun Feb 09, 2025 12:00 pm  

His dad has shared the LE story on twitter, so he's as good as gone.

Seems an odd one from us, looked handy in tje 2/3 games he played before his ACL

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Sun Feb 09, 2025 12:02 pm  

His Dad has always been critical of the club. Maybe needs to form a WhatsApp group with Liam Watts’ father?

In this new approach, there’s going to be casualties along the way. Some we don’t always agree with. Whatever happens, this bullish approach is better than the chronic malaise we’ve endured since 2018.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Sun Feb 09, 2025 12:02 pm  

The story on Total RL is:

CASTLEFORD TIGERS have swooped for Hull FC forward Nick Staveley, League Express understands.

The 21-year-old has played just eight games for Hull FC after debuting for the club in 2023, but did play 13 times for Newcastle Thunder in 2023.

League Express understands that Staveley has joined the Tigers on a trial basis after agreeing terms with Hull FC to leave the Super League club.

Castleford have been crying out for new firepower in their forward pack, with head coach Danny McGuire previously revealing that a deal for Salford Red Devils prop Jack Ormondroyd was on the “back-burner”.

The Tigers only currently have George Griffin, Liam Watts, George Lawler and Muizz Mustapha in the front-row.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Sun Feb 09, 2025 12:12 pm  

Hasbag wrote:

The deadline thing is also for players signing for next year, which if that's the case then fair enough, but this sounds like we could be releasing him immediately and leaving ourselves a player down (and one of the most promising looking ones) for the upcoming season. That's 2 players down so far in 2025!

The impact the new rule has though is that are clubs really going to want to keep around players for a full season who’ve already agreed to move on before a ball has been kicked? I’d agree with you, he’s good enough to contribute in 2025 so I’d let him see out his contract. Myler hinted in his article last week otherwise though, Wakefield also said the same about the lad who signed for Rovers. It’s up to us to adapt to the new dynamic.

The good thing for us is after the Myler article and Wilfs hint on here I looked at the contract list and it was only really Staveley who stood out as someone who we’d potentially lose who we didn’t want too, we’ve seemingly moved quickly to protect everyone else for now with that in mind.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Sun Feb 09, 2025 12:23 pm  

If he’s gone then he needed to go
Carty and Rich would have kept him if we really wanted him

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Sun Feb 09, 2025 12:35 pm  

Staveley Snr has retweeted the League Express story so that maybe confirms it.

[Mild Rover]

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Sun Feb 09, 2025 12:56 pm  

He is/was your number 28. Your 8th or 9th prop? I think fans of both Hull and Rovers overhype specific players before they have really done anything. I’m not trying to be pissy, so I’ll use a Rovers example - Will Oakes. He’s carved out an entirely respectable career in the Championship and is number 25 at Batley. Side Note - Sammy Kibula is their number 18, Josh Woods is their 7 (see below). Fans go on about the Wigan and Saints model but miss the level of attrition those clubs have. It’s a constant cycle of mostly ‘failure’ in terms of making it in SL - and emotional investment in these kids’ prospects or fear of ‘the one that got away’ potentially makes that harder and maybe slower if it seeps into the club’s thinking. Wigan players with squad numbers above 25 in 2018: Jack Wells, Callum Field, Liam Forsyth, Jack Higginson, Gabriel Hamlin, Joe Bretherton, Caine Barnes, Macauley Davies, Josh Woods, Oliver Partington (the stand out success from the group), Samuel Kibula, James Worthington, Craig Mullen, Liam Paisley Saints 2018 was basically the same thing, but I have gotten as bored of typing names that look like they’ve been randomly generated by Football Manager as you likely are of reading them. Saints only went as high as number 30 though. https://www.totalrl.com/st-helens-revea ... sons-kits/ If somebody wants to check other years to see if this was an outlier… then you’re as sad as me, but I’d be interested. It really isn’t worth FANS worrying about players with these sorts of squad numbers, imo.

He is/was your number 28. Your 8th or 9th prop? I think fans of both Hull and Rovers overhype specific players before they have really done anything. I’m not trying to be pissy, so I’ll use a Rovers example - Will Oakes. He’s carved out an entirely respectable career in the Championship and is number 25 at Batley. Side Note - Sammy Kibula is their number 18, Josh Woods is their 7 (see below). Fans go on about the Wigan and Saints model but miss the level of attrition those clubs have. It’s a constant cycle of mostly ‘failure’ in terms of making it in SL - and emotional investment in these kids’ prospects or fear of ‘the one that got away’ potentially makes that harder and maybe slower if it seeps into the club’s thinking. Wigan players with squad numbers above 25 in 2018: Jack Wells, Callum Field, Liam Forsyth, Jack Higginson, Gabriel Hamlin, Joe Bretherton, Caine Barnes, Macauley Davies, Josh Woods, Oliver Partington (the stand out success from the group), Samuel Kibula, James Worthington, Craig Mullen, Liam Paisley Saints 2018 was basically the same thing, but I have gotten as bored of typing names that look like they’ve been randomly generated by Football Manager as you likely are of reading them. Saints only went as high as number 30 though. https://www.totalrl.com/st-helens-revea ... sons-kits/ If somebody wants to check other years to see if this was an outlier… then you’re as sad as me, but I’d be interested. It really isn’t worth FANS worrying about players with these sorts of squad numbers, imo.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Sun Feb 09, 2025 1:07 pm  

Mild Rover wrote: He is/was your number 28. Your 8th or 9th prop? I think fans of both Hull and Rovers overhype specific players before they have really done anything. I’m not trying to be pissy, so I’ll use a Rovers example - Will Oakes. He’s carved out an entirely respectable career in the Championship and is number 25 at Batley. Side Note - Sammy Kibula is their number 18, Josh Woods is their 7 (see below). Fans go on about the Wigan and Saints model but miss the level of attrition those clubs have. It’s a constant cycle of mostly ‘failure’ in terms of making it in SL - and emotional investment in these kids’ prospects or fear of ‘the one that got away’ potentially makes that harder and maybe slower if it seeps into the club’s thinking. Wigan players with squad numbers above 25 in 2018: Jack Wells, Callum Field, Liam Forsyth, Jack Higginson, Gabriel Hamlin, Joe Bretherton, Caine Barnes, Macauley Davies, Josh Woods, Oliver Partington (the stand out success from the group), Samuel Kibula, James Worthington, Craig Mullen, Liam Paisley Saints 2018 was basically the same thing, but I have gotten as bored of typing names that look like they’ve been randomly generated by Football Manager as you likely are of reading them. Saints only went as high as number 30 though. https://www.totalrl.com/st-helens-revea ... sons-kits/ If somebody wants to check other years to see if this was an outlier… then you’re as sad as me, but I’d be interested. It really isn’t worth FANS worrying about players with these sorts of squad numbers, imo. Good post, I think the concern is he looked good the start of last year. Although in hindsight this may have been an early indicator of the quality of player we had at the club. I expect him to go on and do ok though, which is a shame but he's not a local lad so there's maybe less desire from him to stick it out and have a go.

Mild Rover wrote: He is/was your number 28. Your 8th or 9th prop? I think fans of both Hull and Rovers overhype specific players before they have really done anything. I’m not trying to be pissy, so I’ll use a Rovers example - Will Oakes. He’s carved out an entirely respectable career in the Championship and is number 25 at Batley. Side Note - Sammy Kibula is their number 18, Josh Woods is their 7 (see below). Fans go on about the Wigan and Saints model but miss the level of attrition those clubs have. It’s a constant cycle of mostly ‘failure’ in terms of making it in SL - and emotional investment in these kids’ prospects or fear of ‘the one that got away’ potentially makes that harder and maybe slower if it seeps into the club’s thinking. Wigan players with squad numbers above 25 in 2018: Jack Wells, Callum Field, Liam Forsyth, Jack Higginson, Gabriel Hamlin, Joe Bretherton, Caine Barnes, Macauley Davies, Josh Woods, Oliver Partington (the stand out success from the group), Samuel Kibula, James Worthington, Craig Mullen, Liam Paisley Saints 2018 was basically the same thing, but I have gotten as bored of typing names that look like they’ve been randomly generated by Football Manager as you likely are of reading them. Saints only went as high as number 30 though. https://www.totalrl.com/st-helens-revea ... sons-kits/ If somebody wants to check other years to see if this was an outlier… then you’re as sad as me, but I’d be interested. It really isn’t worth FANS worrying about players with these sorts of squad numbers, imo. Good post, I think the concern is he looked good the start of last year. Although in hindsight this may have been an early indicator of the quality of player we had at the club. I expect him to go on and do ok though, which is a shame but he's not a local lad so there's maybe less desire from him to stick it out and have a go.