Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Mon Feb 10, 2025 8:08 am  

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Dave K. wrote:

I'm not as confident as you, the club and Myler have to prove they can make the right decisions, it looks so far like they are slowly getting things right, but they made a real mess with Abdul.

I hope when it's announced the club are truthful with the reasons for him leaving.

I spoke to a member of the backroom staff today. Said that even he’s not 100% sure if he’s gone but not seen him for a few days so assumes he has.

Said he’s got about 15kg to lose and that when you’re in the dreaded ACL recovery group, you see a lot about a player. Been lazy with his recovery and they’re not 100% on how his knee will hold up with all his weight.

I was fuming when I heard he was going as I think he could be a real talent but if he’s not got the right mentality. I guess it’s on to the next player.

Said that everyone is feeling class after a tough preseason but thinks we’re still a cycle away from where we want to be as TS didn’t prioritise strength work enough so the clubs not where it should be but heading in the right direction now.

Used Martin as the prime example. Got real talent, and good leg strength but not physically developed up top yet unlike Barron who had always put a lot of extra work in at the gym

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:18 am  

It would be a real shame if Staveley is leaving, I don't know what (if anything) has gone on behind the scenes but he's the only forward that looks physically ready for SL from the academy, but we have to trust Myler and Cartwrights judgment.

If we're needing experienced backrowers I believe Luis Johnson and Sam Royle are still without a club, they're both young British and could have a point to prove until the end of the season.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:58 am  

Still think this is a poor move short and long

He isn't a season pro, a young kid coming back from a long term injury.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:38 am  

Whenever we get a new coach we want them to make the tough decisions & get rid of the players not up to scratch. Until they do & we don’t agree with them then it’s a mistake by the club. If Carty & Myler are happy for Staveley to leave then we’ve got to trust their judgement.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:44 am  

Not buying this down the pecking order story.

Really hope their is a plan to being 1/2 players in, as we really lack depth in the backrow and halfs now.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:46 am  

K-Diddy wrote:

Whenever we get a new coach we want them to make the tough decisions & get rid of the players not up to scratch. Until they do & we don’t agree with them then it’s a mistake by the club. If Carty & Myler are happy for Staveley to leave then we’ve got to trust their judgement.

Trust in recruitment and retention needs to be earnt and Myler isn't there yet.

Messed up with Abdul, leaving us short in the halfback.

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Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:50 am  

Definitely gone, hopefully the club have got this one right, only time will tell. Best of luck to him.

Definitely gone, hopefully the club have got this one right, only time will tell. Best of luck to him.

[Chris71]

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:01 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

K-Diddy wrote:

Whenever we get a new coach we want them to make the tough decisions & get rid of the players not up to scratch. Until they do & we don’t agree with them then it’s a mistake by the club. If Carty & Myler are happy for Staveley to leave then we’ve got to trust their judgement.

Trust in recruitment and retention needs to be earnt and Myler isn't there yet.

Messed up with Abdul, leaving us short in the halfback.

To be fair Dave, I don't think saying Myler messed up the Abdull signing is fair comment, we signed a player that has the ability but lacks the fitness and from what I understand his fitness was a key factor on the deal signed. So in this instance he probably did the right thing having certain stipulations. Lets not forget the market isn't exactly flush with HB's and we weren't exactly an attractive proposition at the time of signing Abdull which was pre takeover and to be fair we still aren't until we show improvement this season.

Myler to give him some credit has moved out some of the players that were poor performing, had poor attitudes, questionable fitness history which we all wanted to see. We now seem a more professional outfit and without the sentimental millstone we had round our necks for years.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:02 pm  

The 'down the pecking order' narrative isn't one I buy either, out of him Kirby and Jebson he was by far the most ready of the 3 young SR's.

Leaves us with what id class as three 'natural' first team SR's in Lane, Cartwright and Holmes, of which Holmes is struggling with a knee issue and Cartwright seems to pick up niggly injuries frequently.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:03 pm  

It is a really odd one. The way he is built, perhaps doesn't lend itself to this injury not repeating itself? Or, it could be what Myler was alluding to last week, the December 1st deadline for players beginning talks, and he was going to leave at the end of the year, so we thought we would release him a year early.