Re: On to Saints in the League : Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:46 am  

bonaire wrote:

He wont get dropped but he will receive a ban

Sending off sufficient hopefully. Cost us any chance of winning. That should be punishment enough.
Can hit somebody illegally in the head like Charnley did and get away with a £250 fine so I'd be disappointed if Griffin gets a ban for telling the ref he's poop, and we deem that as a more severe act than causing a head injury.

Re: On to Saints in the League : Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:26 am  

Hasbag wrote:

Sending off sufficient hopefully. Cost us any chance of winning. That should be punishment enough.
Can hit somebody illegally in the head like Charnley did and get away with a £250 fine so I'd be disappointed if Griffin gets a ban for telling the ref he's poop, and we deem that as a more severe act than causing a head injury.

I think they might use him to set an example and he will get a few matchs.

Re: On to Saints in the League : Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:00 am  

Dave K. wrote:

I think they might use him to set an example and he will get a few matchs.

Did he get a warning when Liam Moore binned him in the cup?

Can see him getting at least 2 games

Re: On to Saints in the League : Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:24 am  

Dave K. wrote:

I think they might use him to set an example and he will get a few matchs.

I agree I think he will get a ban, I just don't think he should when you can get away with taking somebody out of a game for much less punishment.

Re: On to Saints in the League : Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:28 am  

Hasbag wrote:

I agree I think he will get a ban, I just don't think he should when you can get away with taking somebody out of a game for much less punishment.

I think it will depend on what he said, hopefully SOS, but think he will get a ban, as he did it recently too, so it will be seen as a repeat offence and it looks like he isn't learning.

Re: On to Saints in the League : Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:38 pm  

Grade F charge for Griffin - Questioning the Integrity of an Official. Referred to the tribunal.

FFS what's that then - eight matches?

Re: On to Saints in the League : Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:44 pm  

ComeOnYouUll wrote:

Grade F charge for Griffin - Questioning the Integrity of an Official. Referred to the tribunal.

FFS what's that then - eight matches?

Potentially. Plenty of time to really launch that personal coaching business

Re: On to Saints in the League : Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:58 pm  

ComeOnYouUll wrote:

Grade F charge for Griffin - Questioning the Integrity of an Official. Referred to the tribunal.

FFS what's that then - eight matches?

Potentially more than the tackle from the Wakey player.

Chance for Staverley, give him a few games in the first team. Brown for Taylor, Clifford for Hoy if out, if not Litten on the bench fit Dywer.

[Chris71]

Re: On to Saints in the League : Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:16 pm  

So the good news is that Fash is NFA, the bad news is Grade F for Griffin.

Whilst I don't condone abuse of the officials I would say unless Griffin has really gone to town and called Kendal something extreme the grading at F seems crazy.

Unless the RFL have cast iron evidence of Kendals mic recording what was said I just don't see how the MRP can bring any real judgement or punishment. The linesman was behind and would likely have been out of earshot bending down to pick up the ball initially to have heard what was said with the crowd noise at the time. If no recording then its a case of one word against the other and as both have previous then its fair to say the MRP can not justifiably apportion blame or punishment to either without evidence.
That said the MRP have form for taking sides without clear evidence in the recent tribunal with Josh McGuire claiming Charnley was an 'Impressive & credible witness' and that Kasiano & Philbin as witnesses added nothing as 'they were not in close enough proximity'. So are they likely to say the same about Kendal but would be questionable if they class the touch judge being close enough?
If Griffin hasn't said anything that warrants a Grade F charge, I hope the club defend him and take the fight to the RFL/MRP and Kendal.

Just feel the RFL/MRP will back up Kendal regardless.

No mention of the shoulder charge made by Batchelor or Walmsley sliding in with his knees on Trueman when scoring.

Re: On to Saints in the League : Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:26 pm  

Chris71 wrote:

So the good news is that Fash is NFA and bad news is Grade F for Griffin.

Whilst I don't condone abuse of the officials I would say unless Griffin has really gone to town and called Kendal something extreme the grading at F seems crazy.

Unless the RFL have cast iron evidence as in a recording of what was said I just don't see how the MRP can bring any real judgement or punishment. The linesman was behind and would likely have been out of earshot bending down to pick up the ball initially to have heard what was said with the crowd noise at the time. If no recording then its a case of one word against the other and as both have previous then its fair to say the MRP can not justifiably apportion blame or punishment to either without evidence.
That said the MRP have form for taking sides without clear evidence in the recent tribunal with Josh McGuire claiming Charnley was an 'Impressive & credible witness' and that Kasiano & Philbin as witnesses added nothing as 'they were not in close enough proximity'. So are they likely to say the same about Kendal but would be questionable if they class the touch judge being close enough?
If Griffin hasn't said anything that warrants a Grade F charge, I hope the club defend him and take the fight to the RFL/MRP and Kendal.

Just feel the RFL/MRP will back up Kendal regardless.

You have to remember that the ref, linesmen and video ref are wired for sound together, so whatever was said was witnessed by all of the officials. Grade F isn’t to be taken lightly and wouldn’t have been referred to tribunal unless they have either witnesses or corroborative recordings. I’m amazed the BBC didn’t have it on screen but I haven’t watched it. Didn’t they have Kendall’s voice over on the show? I would guess 8 matches if found guilty, especially after the Cas incident.