Re: The Derby : Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:22 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Who out of Carney, Atkins, Quinlen, Blair, jewitt, Mulhern, Scruton, Lee, Clarkson, Donaldson and Tickle wouldn't play, add to this Crooks and Hall, you have an experienced side.

Ooh they won't like that sort of factual analysis. Awkward.

Re: The Derby : Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:15 pm  

[quote="Mrs Barista"]Ooh they won't like that sort of factual analysis. Awkward. :lol:[/quote]




Like I said 13 out who would be in the 17 spin it how you like your missing about 3 aren’t you which in Hull terms means injury crisis

Re: The Derby : Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:33 pm  

fun time frankie wrote:

Like I said 13 out who would be in the 17 spin it how you like your missing about 3 aren’t you which in Hull terms means injury crisis

Don't be silly. You seem to be saying only 4 on Dave's list would be selected. Palpable nonsense. Get that champagne on ice, relax & enjoy your first derby win since Easter 2015. Sheens is better than Morgan, right, and look how he dealt the derbies, we could scarcely buy a win then.

Re: The Derby : Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:59 am  

Rovers backs look like they'll be shocking. Gotta get Carlos and Griffin some early ball so they've got a bit of space in front of them to work with. And little crash balls to Faraimo coming back on the angle near the line I reckon can pay off well.

Re: The Derby : Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:53 am  

[quote="Mrs Barista"]Don't be silly. You seem to be saying only 4 on Dave's list would be selected. Palpable nonsense. Get that champagne on ice, relax & enjoy your first derby win since Easter 2015. Sheens is better than Morgan, right, and look how he dealt the derbies, we could scarcely buy a win then. :lol:[/quote]




Morgan used to get us up for the derbies the same way Radford does you now we haven’t looked like winning one well since we last did and that isn’t going to change today unfortunately

[Mild Rover]

Re: The Derby : Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:34 am  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Ooh they won't like that sort of factual analysis. Awkward.

It’s weak and even Dave has had the good grace to admit it’s a bit of a wind up.

But let’s say, for the sake of argument, that it is a good argument - it also applies in reverse to several of your posts.

fun time frankie wrote:

Morgan used to get us up for the derbies the same way Radford does you now we haven’t looked like winning one well since we last did and that isn’t going to change today unfortunately

IMO, the motivational ability of the coaches isn’t anywhere near as important as the teams available to them. I think this narrative was born out of a reluctance of Hull fans to accept that we had a better team than them, back when we did. If we’re going to borrow a BS argument from those times I think it should be to do with Karma and Kelly, which at least has the virtue of sounding like a briefly successful late-1980s pop duo.

Hull have pushed on, as evidenced by two cup wins and successive top 4 finishes. They’ve dropped back a bit this year admittedly, and we look to be competently run under Sheens, with a proper understanding of what we need to do to improve, so have hopefully turned the corner. We’re still a fair distance from crossing over, but over 80 minutes it’s not impossible. However, we’d need a more favourable set of circumstances to get to ‘very possible’ or ‘likely’.

Re: The Derby : Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:43 am  

Mild Rover wrote:

It’s weak and even Dave has had the good grace to admit it’s a bit of a wind up.

But let’s say, for the sake of argument, that it is a good argument - it also applies in reverse to several of your posts.

IMO, the motivational ability of the coaches isn’t anywhere near as important as the teams available to them. I think this narrative was born out of a reluctance of Hull fans to accept that we had a better team than them, back when we did. If we’re going to borrow a BS argument from those times I think it should be to do with Karma and Kelly, which at least has the virtue of sounding like a briefly successful late-1980s pop duo.

Hull have pushed on, as evidenced by two cup wins and successive top 4 finishes. They’ve dropped back a bit this year admittedly, and we look to be competently run under Sheens, with a proper understanding of what we need to do to improve, so have hopefully turned the corner. We’re still a fair distance from crossing over, but over 80 minutes it’s not impossible. However, we’d need a more favourable set of circumstances to get to ‘very possible’ or ‘likely’.

It is, but there is no way you have 13 out who would make your best 17 and we have 6 big players, you have 5 players banned, so I'd say injuries to key players are about the same

Re: The Derby : Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:16 am  

I think if we win our next 10 games, there's a very good chance we'll be Super League champions, it's that simple.

Re: The Derby : Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:37 am  

Dave K. wrote:

It is, but there is no way you have 13 out who would make your best 17 and we have 6 big players, you have 5 players banned, so I'd say injuries to key players are about the same

I know. If those BIG 5 had been available you'd have been world champions we all know.

Another day another PhD on the shark's injury crisis in the local paper. Get over it. You have had two good seasons and won cups because your 1,6,7 and 9 didn't miss a game with an injury for those two seasons.
Typical of your terrible sense of entitlement that when it goes wrong half your lot blow their dummies into orbit. Best thing I thought Radford did was address this but looks like it's not gone away.

We have our first choice 2,3,4,5,6,8,9,11,12,13, and 16 not available today 4 making their debut. Only Quinlan, Atkins, Blair and Mulhern would be in our starting 17 for sure. Maybe Jewitt, Scruton, on the bench. Yeaman was better prepared than all of ours when he played in the last derby. At least he knew the plays and defensive set up. It was worth him playing just to see him try and pass it again. That pass for the winger who had a walk in was priceless.

I miss the days when Newton made a mug of him each derby.


Derby just what you need after that wretched humiliation at Wakefield.

Your forwards will bully our ineffective back row. Sharks by 20-30.

[Mild Rover]

Re: The Derby : Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:03 am  

Dave K. wrote:

It is, but there is no way you have 13 out who would make your best 17 and we have 6 big players, you have 5 players banned, so I'd say injuries to key players are about the same

Maybe. We have fewer 'big' players to start with, so the loss of those we do have is more of a problem. Basically, one of our challenges is that you have a better team.

It's a good game for bans to fall, if we had to get them, so I'm not going to moan about that - it doesn't help our chances any though.

Who are your 'big 6' missing btw? Kelly and Connor, I'll give you, but if you're including Hadley, Bowden, Green and Westerman it's a bit of stretch - no disrespect to them, but they're hardly your stars.