Re: On to Saints in the League : Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:43 pm  

Here's the clip https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1670075220474970118?s=20

Here's the clip https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1670075220474970118?s=20

Re: On to Saints in the League : Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:08 pm  

ComeOnYouUll wrote: Here's the clip https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1670075220474970118?s=20 Not sure you can see a lot from that clip... the 1/2 time reviews showed more angles iirc

ComeOnYouUll wrote: Here's the clip https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1670075220474970118?s=20 Not sure you can see a lot from that clip... the 1/2 time reviews showed more angles iirc

Re: On to Saints in the League : Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:09 pm  

Griffin has been 4/10 for FC since signing
he’s 33
he’s a liability
why sign this guy for any longer ?

get a 23 year old ambitious kid from
the Championship

[Chris71]

Re: On to Saints in the League : Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:45 pm  

So basically very little evidence only that Kendal was sure.
Seems like a stitch up to me to give Griffin 7.5 games when there is no evidence to corroborate what was said or even claimed to have been said.
So in essence Kendal says it happened and that’s the gospel according the panel as for saying Kendals was a credible witness when he has form for mishearing previously as per Bateman.

Be interesting to know what Swifty & Litten as witnesses said and what witness Kendal had.

I’d say whichever version was said it’s certainly an accurate description of Kendal.

No wonder fans think the game and officials are bent.

Something just doesn’t feel right about Kendals version when you watch all the coverage of the interaction.

As that’s the official outcome I’m disappointed the club aren’t appealing the severity of the charge and subsequent punishment with the apparent lack of evidence to support either sides version.

Forceful Spear tackle with high risk of serious injury, causing paralysis or broken neck 6 game ban.
Possibly say something about the referees integrity but no one on the panel can be certain equates to a 7 game ban.

Now tell me who the RFL care about as it certainly isn’t about player safety. No doubt the lawyers looking in to this on behalf of the players bringing the courts case will seize in this.

What a lovin joke.

Re: On to Saints in the League : Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:45 am  

Chris71 wrote:

So basically very little evidence only that Kendal was sure.
Seems like a stitch up to me to give Griffin 7.5 games when there is no evidence to corroborate what was said or even claimed to have been said.
So in essence Kendal says it happened and that’s the gospel according the panel as for saying Kendals was a credible witness when he has form for mishearing previously as per Bateman.

Be interesting to know what Swifty & Litten as witnesses said and what witness Kendal had.

I’d say whichever version was said it’s certainly an accurate description of Kendal.

No wonder fans think the game and officials are bent.

Something just doesn’t feel right about Kendals version when you watch all the coverage of the interaction.

As that’s the official outcome I’m disappointed the club aren’t appealing the severity of the charge and subsequent punishment with the apparent lack of evidence to support either sides version.

Forceful Spear tackle with high risk of serious injury, causing paralysis or broken neck 6 game ban.
Possibly say something about the referees integrity but no one on the panel can be certain equates to a 7 game ban.

Now tell me who the RFL care about as it certainly isn’t about player safety. No doubt the lawyers looking in to this on behalf of the players bringing the courts case will seize in this.

What a lovin joke.

If Kendalls version doesnt sit right
what about Griffins version Sir, how can you give that as a ball steal?

Re: On to Saints in the League : Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:31 am  

https://twitter.com/AaronBower/status/1 ... Nbb_g&s=19

https://twitter.com/AaronBower/status/1 ... Nbb_g&s=19

Re: On to Saints in the League : Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:00 am  

Chris71 wrote:

So basically very little evidence only that Kendal was sure.
Seems like a stitch up to me to give Griffin 7.5 games when there is no evidence to corroborate what was said or even claimed to have been said.
So in essence Kendal says it happened and that’s the gospel according the panel as for saying Kendals was a credible witness when he has form for mishearing previously as per Bateman.

Be interesting to know what Swifty & Litten as witnesses said and what witness Kendal had.

I’d say whichever version was said it’s certainly an accurate description of Kendal.

No wonder fans think the game and officials are bent.

Something just doesn’t feel right about Kendals version when you watch all the coverage of the interaction.

As that’s the official outcome I’m disappointed the club aren’t appealing the severity of the charge and subsequent punishment with the apparent lack of evidence to support either sides version.

Forceful Spear tackle with high risk of serious injury, causing paralysis or broken neck 6 game ban.
Possibly say something about the referees integrity but no one on the panel can be certain equates to a 7 game ban.

Now tell me who the RFL care about as it certainly isn’t about player safety. No doubt the lawyers looking in to this on behalf of the players bringing the courts case will seize in this.

What a lovin joke.

The bigger joke was that to prevent all this was all Griffin needed to do was shut the ferkin up.

It was a nothing penalty with no consequences.

The hooter had gone and there was no reason to be so out of control.

Even at the point of getting a yellow he could have stepped back.

Griffin manufactured the whole incident and just had a full on brain explosion.

I've never seen a player so wound up with a decision of so little consequence after the hooter.

Its not like it was after a fight or a controversial try. It was a nothing decision and Griffin just needed to follow the basics of all rugby and don't question the ref.

As fans we can call the ref, as club officials they can question decisions post match. Players can't and doing over so little just was something I've never seen before and doubt I'll ever see again.

Re: On to Saints in the League : Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:06 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

It was a nothing penalty with no consequences.

I think Griffins main problem will have been yes it was a nothing penalty with no consequences but when they’re constantly given + things being penalised that straight up never happened they start to add up. When you’re feeling hard done too & penalised out of the game frustrations boil over.

[Chris71]

Re: On to Saints in the League : Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:45 am  

bonaire wrote:

If Kendalls version doesnt sit right
what about Griffins version Sir, how can you give that as a ball steal?

Like I said both versions differ and with what appears to be no evidence to corroborate either side I don’t see how they can prove either way any version.

I think Griffin was daft to have carried it on however I still question the speed at which the red card came out whilst he was walking away. I don’t doubt things were said but watching the footage I’m not sure Kendals version is wholly correct either.

An official should be able to de escalate situations like this one when players are clearly frustrated but Kendal almost escalated it.

As for a nothing decision with no cost he argued over, I think it’s was just the number of decisions that seemed to be in St’s favour with penalties & 6 agains etc in the first half that culminated in Griffin questioning Kendal. To be honest I even thought the call of ball steal was harsh as you can see Hurrell pull away and then let go of the ball, which is another tactic of conning the ref that's crept in.

With no evidence other than the word of someone who himself has previous I find it difficult the panel can warrant both a grade F charge or a 7 game ban for what is nothing more than hear say.

I'm not going to crucify Griffin for showing some passion as we've been asking players to do that for the last 4+ seasons and he was probably feeling exactly how we all felt watching it. I'm not defending him either for the way in which he questioned but understand his frustration, I am just dubious of a serious charge and punishment simply on the word of one person saying they heard, the same with the second ban handed to McGuire.
Yes Griffin has previously had a yellow for giving Moore some back chat but that isn't the same level as questioning the referees integrity so the Panel saying they've taken his previous in to account when deciding the punishment seems at odds or does Griffin have season on season previous to warrant it? No Yet the panel seem to think that they can take a players previous indiscretion in to account but not an official who was proven to have mis heard a player previously.

This is why I think the system stinks.

Re: On to Saints in the League : Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:46 am  

Talking about the half-time 'hooter' going........Have you seen the size of the one on Kendall?