Re: State of the Nation : Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:01 pm  

Irregs#16 wrote: As long as we got a side playing good rugby on the pitch week in week out, I don't care what we wear, or what the kit looks like. We could wear a kit like this for all I care - https://road.cc/content/news/130207-col ... -revealing They wouldn't get away with that now

Irregs#16 wrote: As long as we got a side playing good rugby on the pitch week in week out, I don't care what we wear, or what the kit looks like. We could wear a kit like this for all I care - https://road.cc/content/news/130207-col ... -revealing They wouldn't get away with that now

Re: State of the Nation : Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:00 pm  

London broncos still going to have part time players in their squad next year apparently, not sure how that'll work if you have to work Friday daytime but also have a Friday night away game up north! Should be a requirement really for their squad to all be full time

Re: State of the Nation : Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:20 am  

Steve0 wrote:

London broncos still going to have part time players in their squad next year apparently, not sure how that'll work if you have to work Friday daytime but also have a Friday night away game up north! Should be a requirement really for their squad to all be full time

Not a good look for SL

Re: State of the Nation : Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:23 am  

Steve0 wrote:

London broncos still going to have part time players in their squad next year apparently, not sure how that'll work if you have to work Friday daytime but also have a Friday night away game up north! Should be a requirement really for their squad to all be full time

A good outcome of scrapping promotion & relgation will be clubs not having to scramble to put a team together should the my get promoted unexpectedly.

Re: State of the Nation : Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:11 am  

Steve0 wrote:

London broncos still going to have part time players in their squad next year apparently, not sure how that'll work if you have to work Friday daytime but also have a Friday night away game up north! Should be a requirement really for their squad to all be full time

Not good but I can also see that for a part time player who has a decent job (and obviously London isnt cheap to live) quitting that job for a low pay SL contract that may only last 1 year is a big gamble

Re: State of the Nation : Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:19 am  

Mrs Barista wrote:

We're a way off rock bottom yet folks. Based on our 2024 recruitment ins v outs we're in a Super League death spiral.

We're a bit nearer now.

Re: State of the Nation : Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:34 am  

3 key issues for me:
1. Squad: up there with our weakest of the SL era.
2. Coach: needs to optimise our limited quality through high fitness levels, well drilled coherent structures, and never say die spirit but delivers none of these.
3. Fans: cumulative levels of disappointment, since 2018 as the squad quality has ebbed away, now reaching tipping point levels. There is literally no hope of winning a game unless it's London or Cas.

Stick with us? Literally the only reason to do so is to keep the club afloat - this is a good reason but the only one. There is nothing tangible to suggest any improvement in the club's fortunes on the pitch whatsoever currently.

Re: State of the Nation : Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:08 am  

Mrs Barista wrote:

3 key issues for me:
1. Squad: up there with our weakest of the SL era.
2. Coach: needs to optimise our limited quality through high fitness levels, well drilled coherent structures, and never say die spirit but delivers none of these.
3. Fans: cumulative levels of disappointment, since 2018 as the squad quality has ebbed away, now reaching tipping point levels. There is literally no hope of winning a game unless it's London or Cas.

Stick with us? Literally the only reason to do so is to keep the club afloat - this is a good reason but the only one. There is nothing tangible to suggest any improvement in the club's fortunes on the pitch whatsoever currently.

Most of us accept your key issue 1. It's not ideal but financially we accept we have a loan to pay off and we'd rather have a club to support so take no.1 as a trade off.

On the other issues, If performance and effort does not improve fans will turn away in droves, that's a fact.
I've supported Hull for 45 years and have been a pass holder whilst we've been at the Mkm but now my loyalty is wearing thin and I'm now questioning whether to renew next season, the first time ever I've felt like this.
We have a championship side in York not far away, I'm sure they'd appreciate a few thousand disgruntled and disenfranchised Hull fans.

[Chris71]

Re: State of the Nation : Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:10 pm  

Bombed Out wrote:

Most of us accept your key issue 1. It's not ideal but financially we accept we have a loan to pay off and we'd rather have a club to support so take no.1 as a trade off.

On the other issues, If performance and effort does not improve fans will turn away in droves, that's a fact.
I've supported Hull for 45 years and have been a pass holder whilst we've been at the Mkm but now my loyalty is wearing thin and I'm now questioning whether to renew next season, the first time ever I've felt like this.
We have a championship side in York not far away, I'm sure they'd appreciate a few thousand disgruntled and disenfranchised Hull fans.

Think point 1 the club/AP had the fans over a barrel as the old line ‘without your support there’ll be no no club’ had emotionally blackmailed us as fans with the fear of not having a club. This I feel has been taken for granted and it’s just expected that blind faith/loyalty will continue.

The problem now is the continued decline of the club on the pitch over the past 6 years following promises of change etc add in a real disconnect the club has created with its fans and it’s a perfect storm. Fans are now so disgruntled and totally fed and rightly so as we are being treated like idiots by both AP & TS. The silence from the club and AP is deafening only hearing from them when money is needed, as for TS comments post match about sticking together I don’t know if that’s a bigger joke than what his team served up yesterday, besides insulting the intelligence of the fans who have backed the club beyond expectation.

AP has to front up to the fans and answer the questions. He also needs to let Smith & Gene go regardless of his speech about Smith being his last coaching appointment. He’d be better off coming out and admitting it hadn’t worked out as hoped instead of burying his head in the sand or being in denial. He kept Radford for 2 seasons too long and this just seems to be a repeat.

Re: State of the Nation : Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:49 pm  

Chris71 wrote:

Think point 1 the club/AP had the fans over a barrel as the old line ‘without your support there’ll be no no club’ had emotionally blackmailed us as fans with the fear of not having a club. This I feel has been taken for granted and it’s just expected that blind faith/loyalty will continue.

The problem now is the continued decline of the club on the pitch over the past 6 years following promises of change etc add in a real disconnect the club has created with its fans and it’s a perfect storm. Fans are now so disgruntled and totally fed and rightly so as we are being treated like idiots by both AP & TS. The silence from the club and AP is deafening only hearing from them when money is needed, as for TS comments post match about sticking together I don’t know if that’s a bigger joke than what his team served up yesterday, besides insulting the intelligence of the fans who have backed the club beyond expectation.

AP has to front up to the fans and answer the questions. He also needs to let Smith & Gene go regardless of his speech about Smith being his last coaching appointment. He’d be better off coming out and admitting it hadn’t worked out as hoped instead of burying his head in the sand or being in denial. He kept Radford for 2 seasons too long and this just seems to be a repeat.

dont think Pearson has any other choice but to sack Smith and his possee