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| Quote Keiththered="Keiththered"Who mentioned Phil Clarke? You are entitled to your perspective I just don’t happen to agree with you. Nor do many other people, as I said some with more practical rugby experience than either of us. As an aside, I have probably watched many more live matches than you. Your experience in that area is rather limited due to your age.'"
And again I ask, who are these players who have improved since leaving us, I’ve given you my opinion, you seem a little reticent.
I’ve quoted on you in the past, you attach yourself to teams who may be struggling, Leigh, Hull, Wigan, Wakey, never any positive opinions, you are the ghoul of the forum, post your season ticket on line, prove your a supporter,
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| Quote Riderofthepalehorse="Riderofthepalehorse"And again I ask, who are these players who have improved since leaving us, I’ve given you my opinion, you seem a little reticent.
I’ve quoted on you in the past, you attach yourself to teams who may be struggling, Leigh, Hull, Wigan, Wakey, never any positive opinions, you are the ghoul of the forum, post your season ticket on line, prove your a supporter,'"
A number of players have been mentioned in the course of this discussion. As usual some people including who do not get the “right” answers turn to being abusive. After all it is all opinion. Of the players that have transferred to us whilst young are a certain international hooker, now plying his trade in Australia, Jordan and Jez. You say the latter two have not improved. I say they have. SL coaches have commented on their development but but you with your limited involvement in the game don’t agree. That’s your right but I know who’s opinion I think is most valid.. The two players at Wakey also fall into this category. You are wanting proof of my membership, that is just childish In any case would prove nothing, anyone could post anyone else’s membership card. Can you imagine if every time two people on any forum held different opinions they had to prove they were “true” supporters.
No opinion can be right or wrong, it is just opinion. Opinion can however be reinforced by the opinion of others who have genuine expertise in the game. This includes coaches, administrators,, current and ex professional players. People falling into all of those categories have expressed the opinion both on the tv and in print that both Jordan and Jez have improved their game since leaving FC. Jordan was in fact ahead in the Man of Steel rankings before his injury. You however choose to ignore all of that and base your opinion only on your own observations of watching matches over a few years. You are entitled to do that but please give me the same right without making petty personal insults.
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| Quote Keiththered="Keiththered"A number of players have been mentioned in the course of this discussion. As usual some people including who do not get the “right” answers turn to being abusive. After all it is all opinion. Of the players that have transferred to us whilst young are a certain international hooker, now plying his trade in Australia, Jordan and Jez. You say the latter two have not improved. I say they have. SL coaches have commented on their development but but you with your limited involvement in the game don’t agree. That’s your right but I know who’s opinion I think is most valid.. The two players at Wakey also fall into this category. You are wanting proof of my membership, that is just childish In any case would prove nothing, anyone could post anyone else’s membership card. Can you imagine if every time two people on any forum held different opinions they had to prove they were “true” supporters.
No opinion can be right or wrong, it is just opinion. Opinion can however be reinforced by the opinion of others who have genuine expertise in the game. This includes coaches, administrators,, current and ex professional players. People falling into all of those categories have expressed the opinion both on the tv and in print that both Jordan and Jez have improved their game since leaving FC. Jordan was in fact ahead in the Man of Steel rankings before his injury. You however choose to ignore all of that and base your opinion only on your own observations of watching matches over a few years. You are entitled to do that but please give me the same right without making petty personal insults.'"
So 3 players have really improved enough to be classed as mistakes, that's pretty good in around 20 SL years.
So your original point was nonsense.
Of the 3 Litten was a mistake, Abdul had a poor attitude and needed to move clubs, Hodson was bad timing, too better hookers at the time, Hodgson was good at Rovers, but his real improvement has come since he was in Oz.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."So 3 players have really improved enough to be classed as mistakes, that's pretty good in around 20 SL years.
So your original point was nonsense.
Of the 3 Litten was a mistake, Abdul had a poor attitude and needed to move clubs, Hodson was bad timing, too better hookers at the time, Hodgson was good at Rovers, but his real improvement has come since he was in Oz.'"
Five if you include two at Wakey. There may well be others at other teams. The point I was originally making was that players that FC considered to be not good enough we’re able to flourish at other clubs. If Jordan’s attitude was wrong at your club the question why needs to be asked as he has had an exemplary attitude at his two subsequent clubs. It happens at all clubs. Cator would fall into that category as one of our mistakes. We have benefited as Jordan and Jez in their positions are better than anything FC have.
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| Quote Keiththered="Keiththered"Five if you include two at Wakey. There may well be others at other teams. The point I was originally making was that players that FC considered to be not good enough we’re able to flourish at other clubs. If Jordan’s attitude was wrong at your club the question why needs to be asked as he has had an exemplary attitude at his two subsequent clubs. It happens at all clubs. Cator would fall into that category as one of our mistakes. We have benefited as Jordan and Jez in their positions are better than anything FC have.'"
Reece Lyne, no thanks, i wouldn't swap him for either of our centres, don't think he was a loss.
The other one, Miller, not exactly the same is it, he was signed from the NRL, he didn't come through our academy.
Same can be said about plenty of other clubs with regard to Abduls attiyude, Kelly is a great example, your club couldn't control him, came to Hull and his attitude was great. Hull letting him go out on loan was the kick up the backside he needed
You are talking rubbish, you are trying make out that its only Hull that release players who are mistakes, when it is very few as been proven and all other clubs do it.
Like a a lot of Rovers fans you are getting carried away, you finished 6th, 2 more wins than us, different to judge in a unbalanced season like the season before, maybe a one season wonder, I suggest to save the gloating from when you achieve something,
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Reece Lyne, no thanks, i wouldn't swap him for either of our centres, don't think he was a loss.
The other one, Miller, not exactly the same is it, he was signed from the NRL, he didn't come through our academy.
Same can be said about plenty of other clubs with regard to Abduls attiyude, Kelly is a great example, your club couldn't control him, came to Hull and his attitude was great. Hull letting him go out on loan was the kick up the backside he needed
You are talking rubbish, you are trying make out that its only Hull that release players who are mistakes, when it is very few as been proven and all other clubs do it.
Like a a lot of Rovers fans you are getting carried away, you finished 6th, 2 more wins than us, different to judge in a unbalanced season like the season before, maybe a one season wonder, I suggest to save the gloating from when you achieve something,'"
You change tack to suit your argument.
Whether Lyne is as good as your present centres is irrelevant. The issue is whether another team was able to develop him after his release. He gained international honours so I guess the answer is yes..
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Your academy was not mentioned at all. The issue was young players and Miller fits that category.
The was no mention of Rovers success or failure only that we benefited from your cast offs.
I did not say FC were the only club to make such mistakes. I mentioned Cater and actually said other clubs were similar.
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| On the Sneyd to Cas rumour - not sure this has legs. Looking on their forum in addition to Trueman, Richardson and O'Brien apparently they are linked with McLelland too. No mention of Sneyd.
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"On the Sneyd to Cas rumour - not sure this has legs. Looking on their forum in addition to Trueman, Richardson and O'Brien apparently they are linked with McLelland too. No mention of Sneyd.'"
The Sneyd one may not, but I don’t think Radford has finished raiding yet!
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| Quote Keiththered="Keiththered"A number of players have been mentioned in the course of this discussion. As usual some people including who do not get the “right” answers turn to being abusive. After all it is all opinion. Of the players that have transferred to us whilst young are a certain international hooker, now plying his trade in Australia, Jordan and Jez. You say the latter two have not improved. I say they have. SL coaches have commented on their development but but you with your limited involvement in the game don’t agree. That’s your right but I know who’s opinion I think is most valid.. The two players at Wakey also fall into this category. You are wanting proof of my membership, that is just childish In any case would prove nothing, anyone could post anyone else’s membership card. Can you imagine if every time two people on any forum held different opinions they had to prove they were “true” supporters.
No opinion can be right or wrong, it is just opinion. Opinion can however be reinforced by the opinion of others who have genuine expertise in the game. This includes coaches, administrators,, current and ex professional players. People falling into all of those categories have expressed the opinion both on the tv and in print that both Jordan and Jez have improved their game since leaving FC. Jordan was in fact ahead in the Man of Steel rankings before his injury. You however choose to ignore all of that and base your opinion only on your own observations of watching matches over a few years. You are entitled to do that but please give me the same right without making petty personal insults.'"
I’ll remind you of your original post.
Most of the young players you either release or allow to go that are signed by other SL clubs do develop into better players. We have benefited and so have Wakey. I think you should be acknowledged as a feeder club.
We asked you which players, you came up with one which you actually thought of, and that was decades ago, your statement was nonsense, but I’m pleased for once, you took the time to reveal more of your feelings, rather than your usual three line pessimism. Have a nice Sunday.
After reading back
you are correct, I shouldn’t have called you a forum Ghoul, I apologise
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| Quote Keiththered="Keiththered"You change tack to suit your argument.
Whether Lyne is as good as your present centres is irrelevant. The issue is whether another team was able to develop him after his release. He gained international honours so I guess the answer is yes..
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Your academy was not mentioned at all. The issue was young players and Miller fits that category.
The was no mention of Rovers success or failure only that we benefited from your cast offs.
I did not say FC were the only club to make such mistakes. I mentioned Cater and actually said other clubs were similar.
You say I talk rubbish?'"
Yes you do
What is your actually point?
Players can get better if they leave to another club, wow really nobody knew that, I thought that every player released by ever club got worse..
Well done captain obvious
Some players leave and get better, some don't, Hull are no worst than every other club in that respect all clubs make mistakes
This certainly isnt the reason for our disappointmentting season.
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| Quote Large Paws="Large Paws"The Sneyd one may not, but I don’t think Radford has finished raiding yet!'"
Hmm..
On an unrelated point Michael Maguire is rumoured to be axed at Wests with McNamara, Sean Wane, Woolfe amongst the leading candidates. Could be a bit of SL coaching change in the off season potentially.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Yes you do
What is your actually point?
Players can get better if they leave to another club, wow really nobody knew that, I thought that every player released by ever club got worse..
Well done captain obvious
Some players leave and get better, some don't, Hull are no worst than every other club in that respect all clubs make mistakes
This certainly isnt the reason for our disappointmentting season.'"
This certainly isnt the reason for our disappointmentting season.[
Again you bring in something that I have nervy mentioned
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| Ian Watson confirming our interest in Joe Wardle, Savellio leaving maybe?
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| Quote Keiththered="Keiththered"This certainly isnt the reason for our disappointmentting season.[
Again you bring in something that I have nervy mentioned'"
Trying to find out what you are talking about or what your point is because no one knows.
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| Quote Steve0="Steve0"Ian Watson confirming our interest in Joe Wardle, Savellio leaving maybe?'"
Think he has already signed, if it a backrower it would be Ma'u (already signed as weel I believe)
But hopefully its Fonua, as Wardke could cover centre too.
We are light in the backrow with only Savelio, Mau and Lane, meaning the likes of Scott pkayong backrow, another backrower might also mean Ma'u and Savelio dont have to do 80 minutes, you can see how their performances tail off last 20 minutes.
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| We should be making a serious offer from Marty Taupau, see if someone will take Taylor off our hands to help pay for it
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| Quote Steve0="Steve0"We should be making a serious offer from Marty Taupau, see if someone will take Taylor off our hands to help pay for it'"
Only if we can get another non fed spot, priority has to be a hooker or halfback (hopefully both).
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| Plus I would would keep Taylor, needs a big season next year though
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| Hi all, Warrington fan just wanting ask a question. Has Ligi Sao re-signed for you guys yet or is he still in contract talks?
I read he was off contract but can't remember seeing him re-signing with you?
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| Quote Or thane="Or thane"Hi all, Warrington fan just wanting ask a question. Has Ligi Sao re-signed for you guys yet or is he still in contract talks?
I read he was off contract but can't remember seeing him re-signing with you?'"
According to the local paper he has re-signed but I can't remember the club announcing it. There's a couple of other players in the same situation. He's a player we definitely need to keep and if I was the club I'd announce some good news asap because there's a lot of phissed off fans on this forum after the shambles of a season we've had!
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| Quote Marcus's Bicycle="Marcus's Bicycle"According to the local paper he has re-signed but I can't remember the club announcing it. There's a couple of other players in the same situation. He's a player we definitely need to keep and if I was the club I'd announce some good news asap because there's a lot of phissed off fans on this forum after the shambles of a season we've had!'"
I had my fingers crossed we had snuck in and signed him ha ha But yet it would be a bad move if you let him go 
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| Andre Savelio has signed a two year contract extension. Please with that.
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"On the Sneyd to Cas rumour - not sure this has legs. Looking on their forum in addition to Trueman, Richardson and O'Brien apparently they are linked with McLelland too. No mention of Sneyd.'"
McLelland signed for Cas and Radford saying "Alongside Danny Richardson, Gareth O’Brien, and Jake Trueman, he adds further competition to our halves." So guessing Sneyd not going there unless they need 5 halves in the squad.
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"McLelland signed for Cas and Radford saying "Alongside Danny Richardson, Gareth O’Brien, and Jake Trueman, he adds further competition to our halves." So guessing Sneyd not going there unless they need 5 halves in the squad.'"
Don’t think Marc is going anywhere yet Mrs B, Josh Reynolds is a conundrum though, that looks a really bad injury, and I’m wondering what the outcome will be.
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