: Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:59 pm  

Sexual Deviant wrote:

Having considered the aforementioned, i know a lot of you have shouted down MUH, but he's right when he says an awful lot of you need to be in posession of valid facts instead of letting your obvious anti-football bile cloud your judgement.

Let's say for argument's sake, we got the game at the KC, and it's England versus Australia. England turn up, all bullish and bristling with intent, Australia turn up quietly, looking a bit half-ar$ed. By half time Australia are 30-40 points to the good, a capacity crowd are more than a tad cheesed off, and vow never to waste an evening in such a way again.

The simple fact of the matter is RL fills the KC once, maybe twice a year. Football is filling it twice a month. This immediately blows the 'blow to the local economy' argument clean out the water.

One way to demonstrate to the SMC (not Duffen, the SMC) that RL can be a commercially viable activity is to fill the ground this Friday. Will it happen? I think we know the answer.

Fair enough but will it be doing so in October/November 2009 and will the SMC be strapped for cash?

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:00 am  

[quote="kathy kirk"][/quote]

Was it full tonight ????

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:02 am  

Chris28 wrote:

Fair enough but will it be doing so in October/November 2009 and will the SMC be strapped for cash?

None of us know the answer to those questions. I suppose a lot depends on whether City stay up or not.

Although sporting events make up a huge slice of stadium revenue, other means of income (conferences etc.) keeps the pot boiling, so to speak.

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:04 am  

kathy kirk wrote:

Was it full tonight ????

About 200 short of the maximum allowed capacity.

Your point being?

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:04 am  

The stating dates for the 4 nations is the weekend of 24/25 October through to 14th Nov.
That counts out any conflict with Hull Fair week, so WHY couldn't Duffen agree on a date if it's not football related.

Bonfire Night is on a Thursday (Safe)................. but it could be Halloween as that is on a Saturday, Duffen must be having a Halloween fancy dress party and he's already sent the invitations.
Why didn't he say so.........we'd have understood.

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:08 am  

Sexual Deviant wrote:

About 200 short of the maximum allowed capacity.

Your point being?

My point being I dont know - alright - I watched on Setanta and they said 21000 but I bow to you mate - was not looking for a fight

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:15 am  

kathy kirk wrote:

My point being I dont know - alright - I watched on Setanta and they said 21000 but I bow to you mate - was not looking for a fight

That's alright chuck. I'm a lover* not a fighter!


*obvious tap-in.

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:26 am  

To not go to a Rugby league town like Hull, with a perfect stadium that's just the right size for an international, its just f***ing crazy!

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:34 am  

Sexual Deviant wrote:

Having considered the aforementioned, i know a lot of you have shouted down MUH, but he's right when he says an awful lot of you need to be in posession of valid facts instead of letting your obvious anti-football bile cloud your judgement.

Let's say for argument's sake, we got the game at the KC, and it's England versus Australia. England turn up, all bullish and bristling with intent, Australia turn up quietly, looking a bit half-ar$ed. By half time Australia are 30-40 points to the good, a capacity crowd are more than a tad cheesed off, and vow never to waste an evening in such a way again.

The simple fact of the matter is RL fills the KC once, maybe twice a year. Football is filling it twice a month. This immediately blows the 'blow to the local economy' argument clean out the water.

One way to demonstrate to the SMC (not Duffen, the SMC) that RL can be a commercially viable activity is to fill the ground this Friday. Will it happen? I think we know the answer.

It's not about how often RL fills the KC, it's about having the KC available for an International game that will attract a capacity crowd of RL followers in this area and from the rest of the RL community across the M62 corridor.
It's about having the KC available to the rest of the sporting community, not just Football. It's about the Chairman of Hull City AFC holding the head position of the SMC and not being 'available for comment' to explain his decision.

You had a crowd tonight of 24750, according to Radio Humberside there was a following of approx 2000 from Spurs, so you were 22750.
If the SL fixtures were so planned that both Hull teams played at home on the same weekends we would collectively attract crouds of approx 23000 as we did for our opening home games, pretty even don't you think?
So where is your arguement that you are 'bigger' ?

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:18 am  

Sexual Deviant wrote:

That's alright chuck. I'm a lover* not a fighter!


*obvious tap-in.

Yes but the point is its a community Stadium and as such provided for the community. One of the main reasons given to the Government when permission was sought by the City Council to build it was that it would 'Offer the opportunity for people in the sub region to attend and experience top quality International events in a local venue'.

This is not for most at least an arguement about Soccer v Rugby, I like many other FC die hards was cheering on City in the pub last night. However this action does seem to go against this orginal objective of the Stadium and the fact that the SMc have refused twice to make a statement about why the game was refused does tend to get up folks noses a bit!

The big mistake that was made by the Council, and they were warned at the time, was when they appointed Adam Pearson's who was already the Chiarman of Hull City, as the head of the consortium set up to run the venue.