Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:53 pm  

Adam isn’t a wealthy man
He runs a business year to year and
has been affected by 2 bad years of covid
Like a farmer with drought

His hands are tied and he’s doing a good job keeping the club afloat

He’s not a great man manager as not one coach has performed well with Adam as their manager

Imagine if Hull FC were a big company on the stock market !!
Would Adam still be the Chairman ?

100% he’d have gone within 2 years as he can’t manage his staff
But he can manage the money and he’s done a great job to keep us in business and have a reasonable side on the pitch

I always blame the Coach for shoite results
Always Always

Brian Smith worked miracles with bang average players
Paul Rowley at Salford another example
Justin Holbrook at Saints was a genius it seems

So good luck to our Finance Director Adam and all the best to Tony in his well deserved retirement

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:44 pm  

Tarquin Fuego wrote: Interesting post ! How many have gone on to have successful Careers after Hull FC ? Brian Smith did !! Seems we have only ever appointed lemons Since 1991 That’s 33 years of mediocrity I like Justin Morgan but feel he will be past it Now wherever he is Tony is a ‘ dead man walking’ - he’s utterly finished This will only get worse before he leaves How will he leave ??? Surely Stan goes with him and Grix gets a chance It simply can’t get any worse and this time That’s a truism Until London I don’t know where the next chance Of a win is as the team look finished mentally justin morgan is the assistant to andrew webster at NZ Warriors who had one of their best seasons last year getting to the semis, got pipped by the better broncos side in the second half edit* himself and richard agar were in the camp with agar being the main assistant, although its not showing he's in the setup this year Brisbane Broncos v New Zealand Warriors | NRL Finals Week 3 | Full Match Replay

Tarquin Fuego wrote: Interesting post ! How many have gone on to have successful Careers after Hull FC ? Brian Smith did !! Seems we have only ever appointed lemons Since 1991 That’s 33 years of mediocrity I like Justin Morgan but feel he will be past it Now wherever he is Tony is a ‘ dead man walking’ - he’s utterly finished This will only get worse before he leaves How will he leave ??? Surely Stan goes with him and Grix gets a chance It simply can’t get any worse and this time That’s a truism Until London I don’t know where the next chance Of a win is as the team look finished mentally justin morgan is the assistant to andrew webster at NZ Warriors who had one of their best seasons last year getting to the semis, got pipped by the better broncos side in the second half edit* himself and richard agar were in the camp with agar being the main assistant, although its not showing he's in the setup this year Brisbane Broncos v New Zealand Warriors | NRL Finals Week 3 | Full Match Replay

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:23 pm  

jimmyfivebellies wrote:

Forget Rowley or any other new coach coming in,we are stuck with Tony,Stan and Grix for the foreseeable future as AP hasn’t the finances to move them out.AP relies on this club for his own salary,so not a chance of any change.Even if Tony walked,we would still only go with Grix or Cummins.This club is at its lowest ebb since pre Super League days and things aren’t changing anytime soon.In James Clark we have a fool when it comes to knowing which players to target,yet he looks to do well with commercial deals.Whether fans like it or not our homegrown players simply aren’t SL standard as in they wouldn’t get in any squad within the top 8,fact.There are a couple of bright sparks on the horizon but they aren’t really ready yet to be in the 17 every week

I agree.... Smith, Gene & Davidson, cant afford to be sacked. hardly surprising ,considering...
Head Physio- Gone.
Head Strength & Conditioning - Gone
Both not replaced.
If both of the above aint replaced, Is there any wonder, why our players are either fatigued, or injured.
Any coach would struggle with a reduction in key areas.
Even Salford with their financial woes, have more backroom staff than we have...

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:53 pm  

The only people that can make a difference are the players that take to the field. This is their occupation and this is their time.

There's no coach in the World that prepares their team to go and play like that team did at the weekend.

The players are the ones that need to be ridiculed and roasted, and extremely harshly, and not as individuals but as a team.

They need to be roasted to the point of embarrassment and humiliation.

Maybe then they'll see that they're playing for an important badge on their chest.

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:09 am  

Theeaststander1 wrote:

justin morgan is the assistant to andrew webster at NZ Warriors who had one of their best seasons last year getting to the semis, got pipped by the better broncos side in the second half

edit* himself and richard agar were in the camp with agar being the main assistant, although its not showing he's in the setup this year

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Morgan went to the Cowboys. Tangata-Toa is the NSW Cup coach to keep the Hull/Rovers vibe going

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:12 am  

The new house of league podcast is a great and depressing listen in equal measure.

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:23 am  

RockNRolla wrote:

The new house of league podcast is a great and depressing listen in equal measure.

It's the closest we've got to the old UTC podcast when Dan is on it. Feels like we all need a group therapy session

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:49 am  

Found this about the gov loans

"The money lent to your company under the Bounce Back loan scheme must be paid back, over 6 or 10 years, with payments starting 12 months after your company receives the loan. If the money your company borrowed is not repaid, your company may be investigated by the Insolvency Service, even if it has been dissolved.31 Mar 2022"

Don't know if this helps at all

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:21 am  

I was a big fan of Smith being appointed originally. We might just be the club that breaks him. He’s been successful everywhere else.
When he was at the dobbins, he had an average squad, but still coached an open, dangerous style of rugby.
We seem to be watching the same old same old we watched under Radford and Hodgson.

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:00 am  

Just listened to the podcast, more or less spot on, as others have said a great but depressing listen.

Main take outs.

No one can see a way out.
Training facilities a shambles
No other SL wanted to sign Pele or Okunbor.
Jacob Allick, was just about done, but pulled out last minute.