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Re: rumours on twitter : Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:28 am  
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I think people are looking for a comfort blanket and erroneously find it in finishing 6th and getting mullered when it counts.
AP sussed it and shipped the lot out - whether Radford was/is the right man to take over is clearly at the moment highly questionable.


We've gone from two 6th place finishes, a CC Final and getting mullered to 12th, no CC Final and still getting mullered. Pass me that comfort blanket.

My opinion is that Gentle deserved another season in charge. But when you get rid of a coach you bring in someone that can improve on the previous guy's record. Radford has failed big time.
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Re: rumours on twitter : Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:06 am  
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hi all,

Ive finally signed up after seeing enough hate towards radford without anyone knowing whats actually going on behind the scenes.


You're right. We don't know what's going on behind the scenes. Which begs the question, how do you know?

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Majority go on like radford turns up; trains then picks the team and thats that.

Little know all the issues he and the club have; nobody on here would say anything to him in the same room?


Nobody thinks a head coach's job is as simple as that. And if I was in the same room as Radders I would certainly say to him that I've been far from impressed. But I'd also let the man have his say on what he thinks is going wrong and how he is trying to improve it.

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A maxed out cap full of overpaid average national conference players who shaun mcrae and peter gentle brought in.

Players like arundel, jason crookes, miller are all top earners at the club; where are they now?


I won't comment on players wages as I know nothing about what anyone earns. I agree that certain signings were poor or haven't lived up to their potential. But you could say the same about signings under Radford's stewardship.

westhullprop wrote:
The paying off of holdsworth is also included in this years cap (not cheap)


I was under the impression that Holdsworth left before the cap went live? Therefore he doesn't count.

westhullprop wrote:
All the below are seen if anyone pays attention to build up and training:

Ben Crookes has excellent potential but like most agents his seems to be in charge. Not going into detail but lets say he doesnt train and wont play again for hull.

Tuson - large wage / hardly played
Colbon - working in the community on first team budget
Talanoa - tries hard but very poor defensive reads cost a lot of points
SA - Has been a decent signing in my eyes but is crooked (doesnt train)
Pitts - tries hard but fc paying his wages to play for bradford


Ben Crooks: Please elaborate on what you claim to know. All we can go on is what we have seen and read/heard from the club and that would appear to be that Crook's was in and out of the team at the beginning of the season, publicly criticised by Radford, then shipped off to Doncaster.

Tuson: Radford signing. No one to blame but himself.
Colbon: Radford signing.
Talanoa: See above.
Sa: And again.
Pitts: That's how player loans sometimes work.

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The issue at the moment i purely down to the old regime. They ran the club lik tomorrow would never come; with large back dated contracts and stupid wages. Well radford is having to pick up the pieces; why do you think no established coach wanted the job?


Again, not commenting on players alleged contracts and wages but as pointed out with players like Tuson, Colbon etc they were signed under Radford's stewardship. There's plenty of blame that could be laid at his door as well.

Did we approach established coaches? If so, who? All the talk from FC has been that Radders was the first and only choice.

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Give him at least another year; bring in someone who actually knows what they are doing to oversee lee / transfers and more importantly the academy set up.


I would give Lee another year if I thought we were heading in the right direction. But all the signs are that we're going backwards. If they brought in an experienced head to work alongside Lee then I'd be prepared to give him more time. Not necessarily a year. Based on this years performances we'd be screwed by that point. Things can't stay as they are though.

westhullprop wrote:
Mcrae / Tony all established names but taking home a big wage and not doing a good enough job.


McRae I agree with but I've not seen enough of Tony yet to judge him.

westhullprop wrote:
Pearson sending again next year shos his confidence in where the club coud be; wigan where nearly relegated a few years back and look were they are now (one of the only teams to not spend the cap)

They also questioned wades appointment.

RANT OFF


Where the club "could" be? More jam tomorrow. The fans are fast running out of patience.

If the club could transform itself the way that Wigan did then brilliant. I think we'd all love that. But how are we going to do that? At the moment there are no signs that we can or will. When Wigan survived relegation they had a proven coach in Brian Noble in charge who I think doesn't get the credit he deserves for the job at Wigan. He was the guy in charge that saved them from relegation and helped laid the platform for the success that Maguire and now Wane are achieving. Wane might have been questioned by Wigan fans upon his appointment (and he's certainly proved them wrong) but he was a more experienced coach than Radford when he took the reins and already had the ingredients for success at his disposal. We are years behind them and based on the performance this season we'll be years behind them for a long time to come.
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Re: rumours on twitter : Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:33 am  
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We've gone from two 6th place finishes, a CC Final and getting mullered to 12th, no CC Final and still getting mullered. Pass me that comfort blanket.


I was hiding under it at Huddersfield last season (Gentle's last game) can't remember where I put it now.
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Re: rumours on twitter : Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:42 am  
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I was hiding under it at Huddersfield last season (Gentle's last game) can't remember where I put it now.


Ha ha ha!
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Re: rumours on twitter : Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:04 pm  
another player gone now (even thou hes on loan to Castleford)

Hull FC confirm the release of Garreth Carvell from the remainder of his contract. Expected to make Castleford move permanent


http://www.hullfc.com/article/35314/carvell-released
another player gone now (even thou hes on loan to Castleford)

Hull FC confirm the release of Garreth Carvell from the remainder of his contract. Expected to make Castleford move permanent


http://www.hullfc.com/article/35314/carvell-released
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Re: rumours on twitter : Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:10 pm  
None of Westhullprop's bollox explains why Radford continually plays Horne and Yeaman when THEY should have been binned off. Miller and Rankin should have been given the time Radford has been given.

Pitts is better than Tuson and Talanoa has been 75% rubbish. Feka was an inspired signing by Motu and has outdone Paea in my eyes. Thompson is a cracking find and I will be furious if he's allowed to leave.

Lose Colbon, Crookes, Arundel, Horne, Yeaman and (sorry to say this) Whiting.
Ben Crooks has done knackall this year, clearly relied on Lineham to make him look good. Another Reece Lyne. Get rid.
Lancaster's outshone him and it probably rankles.

Radfords stance at post-match interviews is alarming. "I dunno what to do, I'll find a way" is NOT reassuring to fans who are begged to come and support the team by Pearson.

We are 12th, bottom of the league now that Bradford and London are relegated.

WestHullprop is probably one of Radford's Regulars.
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Re: rumours on twitter : Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:12 pm  
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WestHullprop is probably one of Radford's Regulars.

Probably (B)Radford himself...
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Re: rumours on twitter : Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:13 pm  
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Probably (B)Radford himself...


I thought it was a reappearance by icecreamman
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Re: rumours on twitter : Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:18 pm  
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I thought it was a reappearance by icecreamman

I don't think airborne/oracleofknowledge or whoever posts any more, not missed!

there's still th (B)Radford appreciation society kicking around. But then FC fans have been applauding mediocrity for years, can see no change ahead.
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Re: rumours on twitter : Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:29 pm  
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I don't think airborne/oracleofknowledge or whoever posts any more, not missed!

there's still th (B)Radford appreciation society kicking around. But then FC fans have been applauding mediocrity for years, can see no change ahead.

Some like below average
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