Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:02 pm  

Standee wrote:

shhh cod'ead, don't ask for specifics, no details will be entered into, I went into HSBC today and asked them for a £10m loan, they asked to see the business case, income and profit projections and to complete a credit check, I said I was really sorry, but all of that was unnecessary and inconvenient, I paid £2.79 for the markers I used to put it on the wipe board and I need to get the flip chart easel back into the office before anyone notices it's missing, I also asked if it was "'cos I is white" and made sure they knew damdn well that earth was part of the milky way, they didn't even trust my references for a similar business idea we recently completed on Ganemede. Anyway, got to go, got a pastafarian meeting tonight.

As someone commented in the Allam Daily Wail's comments section: "he should have been co-opted onto the Olympic delivery committee, he would've saved the nation £ billions"

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:57 pm  

Coach wrote:

To be fair when your quoting that lot its nowhere near a cheap as 2million quid cod'ead so the article itself is in dream land and some people might get confused by that

F**k. That's my irony meter gone into overload. People on here confused and misunderstanding articles in the HDM? Ger on. You'll be telling me they like Sadam Pearson next.

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:08 pm  

My Uncle Harry wrote:

F**k. That's my irony meter gone into overload. People on here confused and misunderstanding articles in the HDM? Ger on. You'll be telling me they like Sadam Pearson next.

We are not confused I for one can see what is at the back of it ..He got City out of the Sh-- now he is getting Rovers fans on his side ..I see it has if your Council give me my demands I will built thing on Preston Road If not you will not get it ..Were I come from it's called Blackmail ..If you do things for people you do it with a good heart and you don't put demands on it ..What get me people like you stick up for him ..A gift is a gift NO STRINGS

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:03 pm  

boulevard clover wrote:

So again why can he put (or give money for) an extension on one rented house but not the other?

Because it suits.

Everything, in my opinion, that Mr Allam does of a "philanthropic" nature can be traced back to the Masterplan - that of securing the freehold of the stadium thereby unlocking the way forward to the real returns.

Building this development in East Hull creates goodwill with Rovers fans and East Hull residents alike, and skews the "weight of obligation" a bit further in his corner against the council.

The more of these relatively small projects he funds - this one, the £1M gift-loan, the squash jobbie, the "saving" of Hull City, the schools and medical donations - the more he creates a perceived obligation to the council and the more likely "neutral" citizens are to give him support and push for referendums - they don't know better, and more dangerously, don't really care...

That's why it doesn't matter that this particular piece of ground is council-owned, it's not the crucial bit of ground that is the make or break of his way forward - the KC and lands.

What is starting to worry me a bit is just how much in his pocket - for some unfathomable reason - are the Mail and Blunderside. They are so unimpartial one could be forgiven for thinking they had ulterior motives. The Mail - as a private company, can take whatever angle it wishes - the media throughout the ages has reflected the views of their various benefactors and business interests. Humberside, though, as a publicly financed organisation should be meticulously impartial, and taken to task when they aren't. I think more should be vociferous about this and making noises in the right ears.

Because, make no mistake, the outcome of this will depend not on the rights and wrongs of the cases presented, but which side the media takes. Look at countless General Elections and the relative influences of the Sun and the Mirror. Plus Allam can afford to run a convincing campaign on the case of a referendum, the council can't - they can only present the facts.

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:05 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

A training ground that would cost way over the £2 millions quoted

A flat, grass field is a training ground. £2 millions would nowhere near cover the suggested "extras"

You could easily throw up a building with a gym and some changing facilities plus an all weather pitch (It won't be state of the art like the one widnes are installing) and get some basic lighting for £2m.

Hull were going to build their training facilities and new club HQ for a million

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:48 pm  

WormInHand wrote:

Because it suits.

Everything, in my opinion, that Mr Allam does of a "philanthropic" nature can be traced back to the Masterplan - that of securing the freehold of the stadium thereby unlocking the way forward to the real returns.

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Totally agree, It is so obvious what he is trying to do.

It reminds me of the egyptians who try to get tourists to have a ride on their camel then refuse to let them get off until they have paid over the odds.

Wonder if he had a camel before he earned enough to get into boats

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:15 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Hull were going to build their training facilities and new club HQ for a million

Would have looked something like this for that price though

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:55 pm  

WormInHand wrote:

Because it suits.

Everything, in my opinion, that Mr Allam does of a "philanthropic" nature can be traced back to the Masterplan - that of securing the freehold of the stadium thereby unlocking the way forward to the real returns.

Building this development in East Hull creates goodwill with Rovers fans and East Hull residents alike, and skews the "weight of obligation" a bit further in his corner against the council.

The more of these relatively small projects he funds - this one, the £1M gift-loan, the squash jobbie, the "saving" of Hull City, the schools and medical donations - the more he creates a perceived obligation to the council and the more likely "neutral" citizens are to give him support and push for referendums - they don't know better, and more dangerously, don't really care...

That's why it doesn't matter that this particular piece of ground is council-owned, it's not the crucial bit of ground that is the make or break of his way forward - the KC and lands.

What is starting to worry me a bit is just how much in his pocket - for some unfathomable reason - are the Mail and Blunderside. They are so unimpartial one could be forgiven for thinking they had ulterior motives. The Mail - as a private company, can take whatever angle it wishes - the media throughout the ages has reflected the views of their various benefactors and business interests. Humberside, though, as a publicly financed organisation should be meticulously impartial, and taken to task when they aren't. I think more should be vociferous about this and making noises in the right ears.

Because, make no mistake, the outcome of this will depend not on the rights and wrongs of the cases presented, but which side the media takes. Look at countless General Elections and the relative influences of the Sun and the Mirror. Plus Allam can afford to run a convincing campaign on the case of a referendum, the council can't - they can only present the facts.

Excellent post and spot on, people need to step back and think about the ulterior motives behind all these 'gifts' which are being thrown about by Mr Allam and why now.

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:57 pm  

And the Panic begins...

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:59 pm  

MrPhilb wrote:

And the Panic begins...