Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:30 pm  

Good to see rovers doing their bit for French RL by loaning Catalans academy players instead of using their own anything to avoid using their academy.

Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:51 pm  

Yippee try yay wrote:

Good to see rovers doing their bit for French RL by loaning Catalans academy players instead of using their own anything to avoid using their academy.

#elite

Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Tue Jun 13, 2023 8:21 pm  

I think there should be a transfer window or make loans a minimum half/season long. Too many teams spread their squad too thinly knowing they can pick up 2 week loans.

It would immediately open up opportunities for youth and force clubs to manage their squads better.

Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Tue Jun 13, 2023 8:59 pm  

Stuff like this will just end up as a positive for us. Young talent in the area will be much more tempted to sign on with us over Rovers as there is more chance of actually getting played.

Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:57 pm  

Yippee try yay wrote:

Good to see rovers doing their bit for French RL by loaning Catalans academy players instead of using their own anything to avoid using their academy.

What has happened to PLT whom they signed in a blaze of glory beating many teams to his signature supposedly

He has had a couple of years being mentored by Coote but obviously isn’t good enough?

[Mild Rover]

Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:13 pm  

Young talented rugby players in the Kingston-upon-Hull area, in the hugely unlikely event you are reading this, I’d just like to say you’re looking on fleek. Oh yes, and point out that Hull KR have two academy-eligible players who have made their first team debut, and that they have played 9 senior games between them. The reason I point this out would, if you were reading this, be obvious - you’re smart.

Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:28 am  

Mild Rover wrote:

Young talented rugby players in the Kingston-upon-Hull area, in the hugely unlikely event you are reading this, I’d just like to say you’re looking on fleek. Oh yes, and point out that Hull KR have two academy-eligible players who have made their first team debut, and that they have played 9 senior games between them. The reason I point this out would, if you were reading this, be obvious - you’re smart.

Have they played this season, you played Batley in the cup, an ideal time to play a couple of young kids, your 21 man squad for that game only had Lewis in. Same last week, lots of talk about multiple injuries, but only Lewis in the 21 man squad who came from the academy.

If you were a young fullback or halfback you would be disappointed in Rovers signing this young French player, I have been very vocal about the lack of chances for young players at Hull, so I'm not just saying this because it Rovers,

Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:45 am  

Reminds me of what we used to do before our shift of emphasis. Short termism.
Glad we’re on a different path now, and young players can see a clear pathway now under a coach who will give you a chance and develop your game.
Long may it continue.

Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:59 am  

Irregular Hoops wrote:

Reminds me of what we used to do before our shift of emphasis. Short termism.
Glad we’re on a different path now, and young players can see a clear pathway now under a coach who will give you a chance and develop your game.
Long may it continue.

Maybe a positive out of potentially cutting our budget, I'm sure by now if Hodgson was in charge, Evans would have been replaced, but think Smith wants to get the right player in.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:38 am  

Dave K. wrote: Have they played this season, you played Batley in the cup, an ideal time to play a couple of young kids, your 21 man squad for that game only had Lewis in. Same last week, lots of talk about multiple injuries, but only Lewis in the 21 man squad who came from the academy. If you were a young fullback or halfback you would be disappointed in Rovers signing this young French player, I have been very vocal about the lack of chances for young players at Hull, so I'm not just saying this because it Rovers, The serious points underlying my facetious post… There’s a habit of using rhetorical tricks to win the proxy arguments around youth development or reassure oneself that it hasn’t been that bad. Switching between local and club-trained when it suits, counting veterans or the example above around mixing up academy players and academy products. Some Rovers fans seemed genuinely surprised that it had in fact been ‘that bad’ when the academy licensing report was leaked. There’s a plausible theory that Rovers messed up their numbers slightly and that’s why their provisional licence was made full so quickly, but it has been very disappointing over more than a decade. When somebody says ‘there must be somebody in the academy’, they have to remember that the nameless candidate whose inclusion they’re advocating will be 18 at most, and being asked to step up three levels (counting reserves/league 1 and the Championship as the intermediate levels). Assuming they mean fringe first teamers one or two years out from academy eligibility, that is where I feel the interests of the clubs and players diverge somewhat. In an ideal world, a decent reserves comp would be a solution - but we have to deal with the world as it is rather than as we’d wish it to be. As Tony Smith noted recently, there are issues https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... uy-8464205 As for overhyping potential and then seeing it go unfulfilled, the bigger issue is the overhyping. Not every young talent will make it, that’s inevitable. Celebrating it openly feels a bit cruel to the young men whose ambitions had to change, but there a plenty of examples. It’ll be interesting to see what happens with the your 19/20 year old cohort in terms of retention for 2024. That’s not snide (on this occasion). I’m just curious to see how different clubs try to work with this system.

Dave K. wrote: Have they played this season, you played Batley in the cup, an ideal time to play a couple of young kids, your 21 man squad for that game only had Lewis in. Same last week, lots of talk about multiple injuries, but only Lewis in the 21 man squad who came from the academy. If you were a young fullback or halfback you would be disappointed in Rovers signing this young French player, I have been very vocal about the lack of chances for young players at Hull, so I'm not just saying this because it Rovers, The serious points underlying my facetious post… There’s a habit of using rhetorical tricks to win the proxy arguments around youth development or reassure oneself that it hasn’t been that bad. Switching between local and club-trained when it suits, counting veterans or the example above around mixing up academy players and academy products. Some Rovers fans seemed genuinely surprised that it had in fact been ‘that bad’ when the academy licensing report was leaked. There’s a plausible theory that Rovers messed up their numbers slightly and that’s why their provisional licence was made full so quickly, but it has been very disappointing over more than a decade. When somebody says ‘there must be somebody in the academy’, they have to remember that the nameless candidate whose inclusion they’re advocating will be 18 at most, and being asked to step up three levels (counting reserves/league 1 and the Championship as the intermediate levels). Assuming they mean fringe first teamers one or two years out from academy eligibility, that is where I feel the interests of the clubs and players diverge somewhat. In an ideal world, a decent reserves comp would be a solution - but we have to deal with the world as it is rather than as we’d wish it to be. As Tony Smith noted recently, there are issues https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... uy-8464205 As for overhyping potential and then seeing it go unfulfilled, the bigger issue is the overhyping. Not every young talent will make it, that’s inevitable. Celebrating it openly feels a bit cruel to the young men whose ambitions had to change, but there a plenty of examples. It’ll be interesting to see what happens with the your 19/20 year old cohort in terms of retention for 2024. That’s not snide (on this occasion). I’m just curious to see how different clubs try to work with this system.