Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:37 pm  

My Uncle Harry wrote:

It shows the limit of your knowledge if you have to resort to inventing claims. I've never claimed to have been at the meeting, I simply pointed out the gaping holes in some peoples take on events.

Nice to see the first steps of acknowledging they've handled things badly, but they still can't resist childish barbs just to make sure talks don't go ahead. Any wonder Siemens are looking elsewhere?

Allam's in the paper slating them very frequently. If you compare the column inches afforded to the council's viewpoint vs that of Mr Allam, there's no contest. Every reason for them to feel a bit peeved at how this whole thing has been portrayed. Still, I think this is a very reasonable position for the council to take. They've promised a referendum if there is a proposition put forward by Mr Allam with sufficient detail and clarity for people to vote on. They've made the first move. Well done to them. Let's see what full and swift reciprocation we get now - this will surely be forthcoming imminently if the Sporting Village gift plans and funding are as robust, detailed and transparent as claimed.

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:42 pm  

My Uncle Harry wrote:

It shows the limit of your knowledge if you have to resort to inventing claims. I've never claimed to have been at the meeting, I simply pointed out the gaping holes in some peoples take on events.

Nice to see the first steps of acknowledging they've handled things badly, but they still can't resist childish barbs just to make sure talks don't go ahead. Any wonder Siemens are looking elsewhere?

siemens are looking elsewhere due to central government reducing their financial support. I've no love for anything labour but you can't lay that one at the council's door

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:47 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote: siemens are looking elsewhere due to central government reducing their financial support. I've no love for anything labour but you can't lay that one at the council's door Siemens were looking at the BAE site at Brough earlier this week. I guess Harry regards East Yorkshire as "elsewhere" and doesn't think people can travel from Hull to Brough to go to work. Only today Cameron said he thought there was no reason to think Siemens would not come to Hull. http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Cameron- ... story.html

Jake the Peg wrote: siemens are looking elsewhere due to central government reducing their financial support. I've no love for anything labour but you can't lay that one at the council's door Siemens were looking at the BAE site at Brough earlier this week. I guess Harry regards East Yorkshire as "elsewhere" and doesn't think people can travel from Hull to Brough to go to work. Only today Cameron said he thought there was no reason to think Siemens would not come to Hull. http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Cameron- ... story.html

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:52 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Allam's in the paper slating them very frequently. If you compare the column inches afforded to the council's viewpoint vs that of Mr Allam, there's no contest. Every reason for them to feel a bit peeved at how this whole thing has been portrayed. Still, I think this is a very reasonable position for the council to take. They've promised a referendum if there is a proposition put forward by Mr Allam with sufficient detail and clarity for people to vote on. They've made the first move. Well done to them. Let's see what full and swift reciprocation we get now - this will surely be forthcoming imminently if the Sporting Village gift plans and funding are as robust, detailed and transparent as claimed.

The paper ask a question and write a reply, which is not necessarily the same as what you put.

As for the Council, by accident or design, they're still going out of their way to make sure the best deal isn't bargained for. What would be wrong with sitting around a table with an open mind instead of this request for one prescriptive scheme?

A referendum's never going to happen, what would the vote be on? All or nothing? With certain covenants and caveats?

I'm sure even the one eyed types on here can see how that's not the most productive of options.

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:55 pm  

Diogenes wrote: Siemens were looking at the BAE site at Brough earlier this week. I guess Harry regards East Yorkshire as "elsewhere" and doesn't think people can travel from Hull to Brough to go to work. Only today Cameron said he thought there was no reason to think Siemens would not come to Hull. http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Cameron- ... story.html Another one trying to invent what I'm thinking. At least it shows Siemens are in deed considering other options and that the distance isn't an issue now and we seem to have merged authorities, which is nice.

Diogenes wrote: Siemens were looking at the BAE site at Brough earlier this week. I guess Harry regards East Yorkshire as "elsewhere" and doesn't think people can travel from Hull to Brough to go to work. Only today Cameron said he thought there was no reason to think Siemens would not come to Hull. http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Cameron- ... story.html Another one trying to invent what I'm thinking. At least it shows Siemens are in deed considering other options and that the distance isn't an issue now and we seem to have merged authorities, which is nice.

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:59 pm  

Diogenes wrote: Siemens were looking at the BAE site at Brough earlier this week. I guess Harry regards East Yorkshire as "elsewhere" and doesn't think people can travel from Hull to Brough to go to work. Only today Cameron said he thought there was no reason to think Siemens would not come to Hull. http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Cameron- ... story.html Siemans have never shown the slightest interest in the BAe site at Brough, however they are interested in the workforce.

Diogenes wrote: Siemens were looking at the BAE site at Brough earlier this week. I guess Harry regards East Yorkshire as "elsewhere" and doesn't think people can travel from Hull to Brough to go to work. Only today Cameron said he thought there was no reason to think Siemens would not come to Hull. http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Cameron- ... story.html Siemans have never shown the slightest interest in the BAe site at Brough, however they are interested in the workforce.

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:04 pm  

Smiggs wrote: Siemans have never shown the slightest interest in the BAe site at Brough, however they are interested in the workforce. http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html

Smiggs wrote: Siemans have never shown the slightest interest in the BAe site at Brough, however they are interested in the workforce. http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:06 pm  

Diogenes wrote:

http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Siemens-talks-future-BAE-Brough-site-workforce/story-13598152-detail/story.html

I work at Bae and I know the facts not the bollox in the local press. They are not interested in the site and never have been believe me.

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:11 pm  

Smiggs wrote:

I work at Bae and I know the facts not the bollox in the local press. They are not interested in the site and never have been believe me.

It's never been available up until now. I know one of the major concerns with the hedon road site has always been the traffic bottleneck at castle street. I'd guess brough would be much more accessible by road if they can get the ships near enough to the site

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:15 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

It's never been available up until now. I know one of the major concerns with the hedon road site has always been the traffic bottleneck at castle street. I'd guess brough would be much more accessible by road if they can get the ships near enough to the site

The river isn't deep enough near the site and they need more clearance under the bridge. The only viable option is the site that has already been earmarked on Alex dock. The local press has got the story wrong (well half of it anyway).