Re: Gentle going. : Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:16 pm  

ccs wrote:

I know it's been a long day, but why are all "assistant coaches" unacceptable?

It's been mentioned on here for years, but certainly a lot in the last couple of days.

Radford, for example, has been coached or has coached for 25 years.

Isn't that long enough to understand what the job entails?

It's just a game of rugby, when all said and done.

I am not ambivalent in terms of Radford's ability as coach with regard to imparting skills, as our defence coach this season he has demonstrated he's a great teacher.

It's the rest of it, the man-management and diplomatic decision-making bit, I'm worried about. I like Radders - a lot - but I wish he was arriving as Head Coach with a few years' experience elsewhere under his belt.

Re: Gentle going. : Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:15 pm  

ccs wrote:

I know it's been a long day, but why are all "assistant coaches" unacceptable?

They aren't.
But for us, we've promoted or imported unproven assistants for nearly 10 years now. We need someone with experience and a track record to put systems in place for success.

ccs wrote:

It's been mentioned on here for years, but certainly a lot in the last couple of days.

Radford, for example, has been coached or has coached for 25 years.

Isn't that long enough to understand what the job entails?

It's just a game of rugby, when all said and done.

What has being coached got to do with coaching? All that means is he's turned up to training and follower instructions.
A coach has to put systems in place for development from top to bottom. Session plan for short, medium and long term. Recruit players. Just naming a few.

A top coach needs to come up with his own ideas.

Re: Gentle going. : Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:12 am  

Assistant coaches here are not willing to do the apprenticeship required to be a solid head coach. You only have to look at how long Bellamy did at Brisbane and McGuire at Melbourne to see what is required. Unfortunately over here society says you should demand things as quick as possible, whether you deserve or are ready for it. Radford will make a good, solid head coach one day but surely it's too soon.

Re: Gentle going. : Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:10 am  

el red wrote:

Assistant coaches here are not willing to do the apprenticeship required to be a solid head coach. You only have to look at how long Bellamy did at Brisbane and McGuire at Melbourne to see what is required. Unfortunately over here society says you should demand things as quick as possible, whether you deserve or are ready for it. Radford will make a good, solid head coach one day but surely it's too soon.

Or the Australian coaches go home early and were left with no experienced assistants.

Re: Gentle going. : Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:08 am  

ccs wrote:

I just don't get this "us and them", "up the workers" approach, I'm afraid.

It's about having the required impartiality to make good decisions. In simple terms, if you get put in charge and asked to trim 2 jobs from your former workgroup, would you cut loose 2 of your lazy mates you've known for 6/7 years, or a couple of recent guys whom work their nuts off but nobody is particularly keen on yet? The people who are principled enough to do the former are a rare breed.

Re: Gentle going. : Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:45 am  

good points Carl.

not sure if Radders is that type,, but ive no hesisitation that Cooke would

Re: Gentle going. : Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:52 pm  

WormInHand wrote:

I am not ambivalent in terms of Radford's ability as coach with regard to imparting skills, as our defence coach this season he has demonstrated he's a great teacher.

It's the rest of it, the man-management and diplomatic decision-making bit, I'm worried about. I like Radders - a lot - but I wish he was arriving as Head Coach with a few years' experience elsewhere under his belt.

Our problem this year has been our attack.

Who will coach the attack if Radford is head coach?

Re: Gentle going. : Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:22 pm  

Diogenes wrote:

Our problem this year has been our attack.

Who will coach the attack if Radford is head coach?

sean long and paul cooke. Training sessions to be held in crown car park

Re: Gentle going. : Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:22 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

We could well become a real farce in 2015.

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Re: Gentle going. : Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:34 pm  

weaver93 wrote:

IMO

Thompson - McRAE (Howes)

Paleasina - Motu Tony.

Totally forgot that Radford & Tony had played recently together at Hull RU. - hmmmm.

tony and radders at hull ru ,ru winger on his way "welcome back tevita" (or leroy mcenzie)