Re: Toulouse next : Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:27 pm  

Just watched it, decent performance, once we held the ball, we controlled the game, defence was excellent, they never looked like scoring except a forward pass and a break, which Longstaff made a fantastic cover tackle.

Forwards were very good particularly Longstaff, Taylor and Evans.

Connor was fantastic, his short kicking game was outstanding made a try and about 4 drop outs, defended well too, don't think his defence is an issue in the line, just lacks pace.

Mitch was quality, definitely a player there.

Smith looked dangerous and set up a couple of chances with his quick running and passing, very strong defence too.

Think we could have won by more if we hadn't changed the team so much, finished the game with JJ at 6 and Lane at hooker.

A couple of negatives, six agains, must have given away about 10 and better teams will punish us, not sure what Simm brings to the team, think we have better in our squad.

Re: Toulouse next : Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:17 pm  

bonaire wrote:

I agree we have to find a solution to keep Toulouse in S/L
Wakefield with a run down ground offer nothing now to a modern future S/L.
The problem is even if Wakefield did get relegated (which they wont) then we get Featherstone or Leigh.Featherstone would be even worse.
Even worse is if Toulouse are relegated then we Featherstone or Leigh for a season in S/L as well as Wakefield

I can’t see anything other than Leigh. Apparently no play offs, 1 up 1 down.

Re: Toulouse next : Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:55 am  

Armavinit wrote:

I can’t see anything other than Leigh. Apparently no play offs, 1 up 1 down.

When they are paying Ferguson 250k, then how can other teams in that league even come close? It's a farce really. 250k Blake Ferguson, playing against part time players. They have double the amount of overseas players than they would be allowed in SL - so half their squad is going to be leaving. Rather keep Toulouse in SL, than have Leigh

Re: Toulouse next : Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:08 am  

Irregs#16 wrote:

When they are paying Ferguson 250k, then how can other teams in that league even come close? It's a farce really. 250k Blake Ferguson, playing against part time players. They have double the amount of overseas players than they would be allowed in SL - so half their squad is going to be leaving. Rather keep Toulouse in SL, than have Leigh

Don't have an academy side, all short term planning, I wouldn't allow any team into SL without a youth set up.

Re: Toulouse next : Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:15 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Don't have an academy side, all short term planning, I wouldn't allow any team into SL without a youth set up.

I'm with you Dave. When they get relegated Beaumont will rip up the contracts and start again.

They've got 6 or 7 overseas players they need to get rid of if they come up.

They're boom or bust every season. It's pretty depressing to think we could lose Toulouse and gain Leigh next season.

Re: Toulouse next : Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:21 am  

Makes me laugh how Beaumont gives it large about the deficiencies of the French teams.

He buys his way out of a part time League, with about 13 overseas players, doesn’t have a youth set up and can only dream of getting the crowds Catalans do.

[Chris71]

Re: Toulouse next : Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:53 am  

Irregular Hoops wrote:

Makes me laugh how Beaumont gives it large about the deficiencies of the French teams.

He buys his way out of a part time League, with about 13 overseas players, doesn’t have a youth set up and can only dream of getting the crowds Catalans do.

For me Leigh with Beaumont offer nothing as there seems to be no long term plan as it still seems to be based on a 5h!t or bust philosophy, which he has done previously and then not learnt the errors of that.

Re: Toulouse next : Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:17 am  

Chris71 wrote:

For me Leigh with Beaumont offer nothing as there seems to be no long term plan as it still seems to be based on a 5h!t or bust philosophy, which he has done previously and then not learnt the errors of that.

Exactly, we’ve seen it all before. They come up and offer nothing, after being flat track bullies in the Championship.

Re: Toulouse next : Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:37 am  

Irregular Hoops wrote:

Exactly, we’ve seen it all before. They come up and offer nothing, after being flat track bullies in the Championship.

Playing Devil’s advocate. What, do Toulouse offer other than very expensive away trips and no away support. That Leigh or Featherstone don’t. Given that since Catalan joined there has been no significant extra exposure or funding for the game. In fact probably the opposite.

Re: Toulouse next : Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:58 am  

For me the game is currently in a position where it has to look out of the M62 corridor and instead look further afield. Are places such as Leigh and Fev really the solution to the games current issues?

We've seen it before from Beaumont, splash cash on players whilst hammering part timers in the championship and then half way through the next season they're having to ship them out and are begging for clubs to give a helping hand. Who knows, they might have better resources this time round.

The game has to be adventurous, and the perfect opportunity for that would have been the World Cup this year. But of course, they cant get that right either. 95% of matches across mens, womens and wheelchair rugby are north of Sheffield. Why not take the game to different places? Bristol, Leicester, Gloucester, more than just the one game in London. all areas which have (albeit the wrong code) some interest in rugby. That is how you expand the game, through the national team, someone who everyone can get behind as seen with the womens football team recently.

I am a firm believer that Toulouse should have been given a year exempt from relegation. They started their season with two of their best players leaving and now with six games remaining they're still within a chance of staying up. There is something there, they just need the time to adjust.