Re: More rumours... : Wed May 25, 2011 11:22 am  

In hindsight we should of signed Deacon instead of Long, I seem to remember Wigan were sniffing for Long back when he signed for us. Deacon would of been a much bigger player for us IMO.

Re: More rumours... : Wed May 25, 2011 11:22 am  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Good

Fine.

Re: More rumours... : Wed May 25, 2011 11:24 am  

ICECREAMMAN wrote:

Long has made it quite clear he wants another year, the club have said they want him for at least another year, however SL has also been professional enough to say lets wait see how it goes for the remainder of the season and make a shout along the way!!, no real rush...
A fit SL playing well is worth waiting for IMO

Unless someone has invented time travel there's less chance of that than one of your predictions coming true

Re: More rumours... : Wed May 25, 2011 11:26 am  

ICECREAMMAN wrote:

However as we know the injury he sustained could have been picked up by anyone and very unlucky indeed and is not joint injury which are usually the issues older guys have

Isn't it his 3rd or 4th "impact" injury since he joined us?

Re: More rumours... : Wed May 25, 2011 11:30 am  

i could accept going into next season with horne or long and a new half-back... but if they are both first choice again WTF!!

defending Longs injury record at our club is ridiculous and deluded... the number of games we get from him is not good enough. some people pretend the issue is not his age. IMO either he is too old i.e. injury prone or he is crocked plain and simple. we should be looking to get 20+ games a year from a half-back

Re: More rumours... : Wed May 25, 2011 11:33 am  

ICECREAMMAN wrote:

Long has made it quite clear he wants another year, the club have said they want him for at least another year, however SL has also been professional enough to say lets wait see how it goes for the remainder of the season and make a shout along the way!!, no real rush...
A fit SL playing well is worth waiting for IMO

"no real rush"

yeah alright then... that will really help our recruiment for next seaon

"a fit SL"

remind me the % games he has played since he signed for us?!

Re: More rumours... : Wed May 25, 2011 11:34 am  

monkeyshoes wrote:

i could accept going into next season with horne or long and a new half-back... but if they are both first choice again WTF!!

defending Longs injury record at our club is ridiculous and deluded... the number of games we get from him is not good enough. some people pretend the issue is not his age. IMO either he is too old i.e. injury prone or he is crocked plain and simple. we should be looking to get 20+ games a year from a half-back

indeed, neither Horne nor Long are playing at the standard we need to challenge for honours, but that doesn't seem to be why we're in business.

[Kosh]

Re: More rumours... : Wed May 25, 2011 11:38 am  

FC MONK wrote:

I'd dosnt matter. The older you get the more brittle your bones become. In a high impact sport 3 or 4 years can make a big difference. It's also about how you look after yourself over the years. Look at Fitz or Menzies, and if you have read Longys book you'll know he didn't look after himself in the early years. He's paying for it now.

Bone density doesn't even start to decrease until 35 and it's a long, slow process - particularly in men. Long is 34. Intense physical exercise, particularly high impact, actually increases bone density and strength. Recovery time will increase with age, but Long is at no more risk of fractures than any other RL player.

And his lifestyle will not have affected his bone strength unless he's been seriously calcium deficient for many years.

Re: More rumours... : Wed May 25, 2011 11:43 am  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Pointless keeping long on a top salary when he spends more time watching us from the stands than he does on the field.

Still, good to hear he's in tip top condition again. Hopefully he won't be out injured with another of these "unlucky" inpact injuries again in a week or two

If there was a better option at SH who was proven then I would admit that keeping Long would not seem the most sensible move. The thing is I can't see much quality available and when Long has been fit he has been very good I feel. The good thing this year is we have had genuine cover in Obst. Other halves get injuries too, recently I can think of Dobson, McGuire, Myler, Pryce as examples of players who have been out with lengthy injuries.

Re: More rumours... : Wed May 25, 2011 12:16 pm  

PAUL M wrote:

If there was a better option at SH who was proven then I would admit that keeping Long would not seem the most sensible move. The thing is I can't see much quality available and when Long has been fit he has been very good I feel. The good thing this year is we have had genuine cover in Obst. Other halves get injuries too, recently I can think of Dobson, McGuire, Myler, Pryce as examples of players who have been out with lengthy injuries.

stop using sense like that Paul, it doesnt fit the thread remit mate