Re: Gleeson : Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:58 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

You were bitching about how unfair it all seems.

What's the point in whingeing over something you have little knowledge of and certainly zero influence in?

Influence I have none, employment law knowledge I have plenty. I am not stating what is fair or otherwise, I am stating what is right for Hull FC, we cannot continue carrying someone who isn't performing the duties for which they were engaged, I have said (repeatedly) that I wish Martin all the best, but as a club we need to look to the future.

Re: Gleeson : Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:59 pm  

No one knows what deal we entered into with him so let's not anyone pretend that they do.

I will be gutted if he doesn't play again, which seems the likeliest outcome at this stage, as he is a class centre and was for us even though way off being anything like fit.

Re: Gleeson : Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:00 pm  

Standee wrote:

where is the money coming from, if he's on £60k for next season then it's a chunk of cash.

But, as I keep saying, it's a chunk of cash we committed to knowing it could all go tits up. If there isn't some sort of break clause in there, we'd be legally obliged to honour the contract by keeping him on the playing staff and hoping he's fit at some point in the season, or by paying it up before the season starts.

Re: Gleeson : Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:01 pm  

Standee wrote:

I have said (repeatedly) that I wish Martin all the best,

And you think the best way for him to recover from his illness would be if his contract was terminated without a penny of compensation going his way? Nice.

Re: Gleeson : Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:08 pm  

Staffs FC wrote:

No one knows what deal we entered into with him so let's not anyone pretend that they do.

Not sure anyone has pretended to?

Re: Gleeson : Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:16 pm  

Rock God X wrote:

And you think the best way for him to recover from his illness would be if his contract was terminated without a penny of compensation going his way? Nice.

where have I said any such thing? I would just like the situation resolved.

As Staffs has said, I'd much rather see him playing for FC again having sorted out whatever his issues are, that would be the best outcome for all, in my opinion.

Re: Gleeson : Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:22 pm  

I don't claim to know what's going on but I don't believe he will play for Hull FC again.

Re: Gleeson : Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:29 pm  

Don't know if its been mentioned already and tbh I can't be arrised to look back, but if he is suffering that badly from whatever depression it is then maybe Sean longs Twitter could shed some light on it.. as to me it seems he seems to be enjoying himself quite well for a man on 'compassionate leave'.. both should stop 'robbing' the club and leave imo if either actually gave a toss about hull FC..

Re: Gleeson : Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:28 pm  

Stupid move by the club anyway and if it now means us having to pay up the second year then its even more laughable

Re: Gleeson : Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:35 pm  

Standee wrote:

where have I said any such thing?

You strongly implied it when you said:

Standee wrote:

he cannot meet the terms and conditions of his contract, therefore why should we pay him up?

Standee wrote:

what would happen to you in your employment, would you employer pay you up x thousand pounds?

Standee wrote:

lets just keep paying players not to do the job for which they were employed, a sure fire way to a top 4 finish.

Standee wrote:

where is the money coming from, if he's on £60k for next season then it's a chunk of cash.

If that's not saying we shouldn't pay him up, I don't know what is.