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Re: Losing Interest : Tue May 06, 2014 8:39 am  
Me & my son we're watching the snooker on our phones on Sunday it was that crap. We're walking to the ground these days with no enthusiasm at all & came away & both said at the same time we aren't going on Friday & this from pass holders. I never thought I'd fall out of love with my team/sport but there just doesn't seem any point anymore.
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Re: Losing Interest : Tue May 06, 2014 8:47 am  
totally fed up at the moment, not happy at all , but as far as not going or supporting fc for me its not an option as there in my blood, i wish i could in some ways as be less painfull after watching matches like sunday, i will be there on sat more in hope than anything else,
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Re: Losing Interest : Tue May 06, 2014 8:58 am  
I thought it was just me that was losing interest in the game. For me the game is becoming dull as a whole. Teams are being very monotonous and the flair players are as rare as hens teeth. Sadly the only time we see any enterprise during games now is when it is a "free play" after a knock on or in the dying minutes when it is all or nothing.

Sadly the fact that teams are coached to slow the play down when on defence and they are allowed to get away with it has had a huge detrimental effect on the game. By allowing teams to slow the PTB down it means defences have a lot more time to get set. Yet if we stopped the spoiling tactics and allowed teams to get numerous quick plays in a set it would lead to much more exciting play as defences would tire quicker.
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Re: Losing Interest : Tue May 06, 2014 9:12 am  
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I thought it was just me that was losing interest in the game. For me the game is becoming dull as a whole. Teams are being very monotonous and the flair players are as rare as hens teeth. Sadly the only time we see any enterprise during games now is when it is a "free play" after a knock on or in the dying minutes when it is all or nothing.

Sadly the fact that teams are coached to slow the play down when on defence and they are allowed to get away with it has had a huge detrimental effect on the game. By allowing teams to slow the PTB down it means defences have a lot more time to get set. Yet if we stopped the spoiling tactics and allowed teams to get numerous quick plays in a set it would lead to much more exciting play as defences would tire quicker.


Good post.
Teams also just seem to do the same set plays and then kick to the corner. Time after time.
It's becoming a dull sport to watch, which is amazing considering the athletes who play the sport.
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Re: Losing Interest : Tue May 06, 2014 11:16 am  
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Good post.
Teams also just seem to do the same set plays and then kick to the corner. Time after time.
It's becoming a dull sport to watch, which is amazing considering the athletes who play the sport.

We've turned the game over here into the 1980/90s aussie type of play, defence orientated. The game over there as a result started to nose dive so they introduced change, we need to do the same here IMO. We don't seem to have players with a natural flair as we used to have, or maybe we do but everyone is scared to death to try something off the cuff as it goes against the "game plan"
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Re: Losing Interest : Tue May 06, 2014 11:51 am  
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We've turned the game over here into the 1980/90s aussie type of play, defence orientated. The game over there as a result started to nose dive so they introduced change, we need to do the same here IMO. We don't seem to have players with a natural flair as we used to have, or maybe we do but everyone is scared to death to try something off the cuff as it goes against the "game plan"

Crooks tried off the cuff at two kick offs on Sunday and neither worked. But I'd rather see that than the same old stuff over and over and over. To me, the latter shows a basic lack of rugby intelligence. "Stick to the game plan as its all we can do".

I'm not losing interest in the game like some as there are occasionally moments that will have me standing up, cheering like an idiot, or applauding, or just saying "wow". Sadly these are few and far between at FC these days. If we're going to lose games though, let's try and doing in an exciting way, eh?
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Re: Losing Interest : Tue May 06, 2014 1:34 pm  
It is indeed interesting this thread. For me living hundreds of miles from the KC the choice of going is out of my hands. Since AP decided that tradition was no longer a factor and decided that Friday nights are best for families I have not been as often as I used to go. It's also made easier given that we have served up dross year after year since our last trip to Old Trafford. My life has moved on and I have found other things to do while hull are playing. It's a sad fact. That said I still spend a small fortune each year buying merchandise and making the occasional trip to the KC. But given how inconsistent we are it fills me with trepidation and not excitement every time I decide to splash out £150 + on travelling north to see us play. The kids get excited but that's the joy of being a youngster seeing their heroes. Unfortunate for them their heroes are second rate as opposed to my heroes like Knocker and the squad of the early 80s.
The game as a whole though is sterile and predictable. Occasionally either at live games or on Sky you get a game which reignites your love for the game. England NZ at Wembley was a casing point. But those games are few and far between.
The off the cuff play is not there so much now (IMO) as we have too many subs. Back in the day of only 2 subs the cheeky half back came into their own as the forwards tired. They could try things knowing that the props and others were tiring. It made for exciting play. Now we have enforcers who play 15 - 20 minutes a game. Simply to either barge over for tries or to cause some quick damage. I'd rather see them against a scrum half after 60 mins of play.
I am sure there were dead rubber games in years gone by. Some clubs never really made impressions on the league, but you had great cup sides which gave their fans something to look forward to and days of glory. Even if it was only a county cup final at Headingley in front of 11000 people. Castleford's Regal trophy victory vs Wigan in the early 90s being a classic example.
There isn't that any more. As such you get apathy and a feeling of why bother.
We all love our clubs and deep down love the game. But times have changed. We have many many different entertainment options crying out for our disposable income. All of which try and offer value for money. We might love the clubs we support but unless we feel that we are getting that VFM and also being entertained and enjoy the spectacle on offer then we start to drift.
The game is at that crossroads. The spectacle has to adapt which I believe it will with the 8x8x8 system. Clubs like Leigh and Featherstone have hope and will see their crowds and income develop. The fact it might be at the expense of a club from Hull or Bradford is for those clubs to worry about. We are in danger of playing Leigh and Featherstone this time next year in that middle 8 unless things change rapidly. That's for AP and NH etc to address as it's their cash which is on the line.
It's also for the RFL to address and recognise that things are not as roses as they should be.
Next year is the RU World Cup whilst our game and theirs are different it is a threat to our game. International athletes fully in the nations thoughts. There will be a feel good factor after it and the youngsters who are the stars of the future will want to play rugby. Sadly it will be RU and not RL as we do not offer the riches craved. Even at lower levels where average players can supplement incomes playing a game they love. As a result our product will dilute. I don't see this issue being considered by the RFL. Are they worried? I doubt it.
There is so much to celebrate in our game but sadly far more to criticise and that's why apathy is setting in.

How bloody depressing :?
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Re: Losing Interest : Tue May 06, 2014 2:50 pm  
Just put on a DVD of the 1982 CC final and replay or the 1985 CC final to see how the game was and still should be played!

That is until the powers that be sold the games soul to Sky, changed the rules and format year on year to try and make the game more appealing to the neutral tv viewer. We have virtually done away with tackling and play the balls and the game now resembles a basket ball game, we score you score.
Until we get back to the roots of the sport and what actually made it a great game to watch and not just a try fest aimed at casual tv viewers then the game will continue to decline imo.
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Re: Losing Interest : Tue May 06, 2014 3:50 pm  
It's interesting that the apathy in this thread is generally directed at the game as a whole and not FC. That in itself gives peoples comments some credability.
The comments re substitutes/replacements is an interesting one and has led to something I've thought for sometime that the endurance part of the sport has been taken away. It used to be you pitted yourself against your opposite number for 80 minutes and fitness, determination became a factor as well as skill. You might not get on top until the last few minutes but now with players coming and going all the time that element of the game has disappeared.
It's even worse in Union with wholesale changes in every match.
The whole game in the UK needs a serious review with many of the comments on this thread being a basis for that review.
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Re: Losing Interest : Tue May 06, 2014 6:17 pm  
My Dad couldn't make the game so texted half time score and then at the end just said 'We lost'
His response was 'Why am I not surprised?'

in 2009 we often walked to games wondering if we were going to score many tries at all, it hasn't got to that stage this year though its become a case of wondering which FC will turn up

I still enjoy watching rugby and supporting FC but when we do win a game I get a nagging feeling that we will undo the victory in the near future.
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