Re: All time greatest Hull FC team No.s 8 and 10 Prop Forwar : Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:59 am  

he split opinions but i always liked greenhill - not top class enough to make our list but was a pretty consistent forward who did a lot of minutes

and, yes he is exactly the kind of prop we need now

Re: All time greatest Hull FC team No.s 8 and 10 Prop Forwar : Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:06 pm  

the artist wrote:

he split opinions but i always liked greenhill - not top class enough to make our list but was a pretty consistent forward who did a lot of minutes

and, yes he is exactly the kind of prop we need now

Just looked at his stats from 2003, made 3594 metres (2nd in SL), 73 tackle busts and 34 offloads.

As you have said, I would love to have a similar player in our side now (I think we did in Lynch, but will stupidly released him).

Re: All time greatest Hull FC team No.s 8 and 10 Prop Forwar : Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:20 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Just looked at his stats from 2003, made 3594 metres (2nd in SL), 73 tackle busts and 34 offloads.

As you have said, I would love to have a similar player in our side now (I think we did in Lynch, but will stupidly released him).

Losing Lynch was a tough one but the person in charge of recruitment (that wasn't Gentle at that point btw) decided not to keep him or replace him like for like and still hasn't (& losing 3 props + ticks, Briscoe & effectively Macdonnel from 2013 there was plenty of cap). our props are bang average, oh for a Mick Scott or a fit Skerrett.

Re: All time greatest Hull FC team No.s 8 and 10 Prop Forwar : Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:39 pm  

Trevor skerrett and mick harrison from what ive seen,though harold bowmans record speaks volumes.

Re: All time greatest Hull FC team No.s 8 and 10 Prop Forwar : Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:42 pm  

i'll put the nominees up later tonight (didn't want this lost in the easter derby fallout). are there any more shouts?

Re: All time greatest Hull FC team No.s 8 and 10 Prop Forwar : Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:51 pm  

OK so the proposed nominees for Prop are

1. Harold Bowman. Between 1921 and 1935 Bowman made 451 appearances for Hull putting him at 3rd on the all time list. During his career he scored 75 tries with a seasons best of 16. He also represented GB and toured Australia

2. Mick Scott. Scott is second on Hull's all time appearance list with 459 made between 1948 and 1963. A mainstay of the mighty pack in the clubs glory years of the 1950s he scored 43 tries and won 2 championship titles. Died in an accident on the docks at only 37.

3. Jim Drake. The elder of the Drake twins, Jim was the other prop in the fifties legendary pack. He made 243 appearances for the club scoring 38 tries.

4. Mick Harrison. Harrison was a stalwart of the side during the leaner years of the late 60s and seventies. A hard no nonsense figure he became the club's enforcer and his worth was recognised by GB for whom he played 7 times.

5. Trevor Skerrett. The welshman was signed in 1980 for 40k a significant figure then and a record for a prop. he played a key role in the success of the early 80s teams. He played 154 games for Hull scoring 18 tries. Only a series of injuries later in his FC career prevented a greater set of stats.

6. Karl Harrison. Along with Andy Dannatt and Lee Jackson, Harrison formed part of the great front row of the Brian Smith years. He was signed from Featherstone for 57k and made 86 appearances for hull, winning the Premiership trophy in 1991

Re: All time greatest Hull FC team No.s 8 and 10 Prop Forwar : Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:21 pm  

Given we've moved on to the forwards, how does the back line look now it's complete?

Still think Tommy Finn is our greatest 7.

Re: All time greatest Hull FC team No.s 8 and 10 Prop Forwar : Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:47 am  

the artist wrote:

2. Mick Scott. Scott is second on Hull's all time appearance list with 459 made between 1948 and 1963. A mainstay of the mighty pack in the clubs glory years of the 1950s he scored 43 tries and won 2 championship titles. Died in an accident on the docks at only 37.

Additional info on Mick......................... From 1953 to 1960 he played in 4 Yorkshire Cup finals, 3 consecutive Championship finals(a captain in one of the 2 winning sides), 2 Wembley Cup finals and played in the Hull team that won the European Club Championship in 56/57. In this period Hull each year competed in at least 1 final. Mick also played for England.

[Mild Rover]

Re: All time greatest Hull FC team No.s 8 and 10 Prop Forwar : Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:30 pm  

Freddie Miller. wrote:

Additional info on Mick......................... From 1953 to 1960 he played in 4 Yorkshire Cup finals, 3 consecutive Championship finals(a captain in one of the 2 winning sides), 2 Wembley Cup finals and played in the Hull team that won the European Club Championship in 56/57. In this period Hull each year competed in at least 1 final. Mick also played for England.

I've wondered in the past, when looking at Hull's list of honours, about the European Club Championship. Was it a full competition or a one off match against (most obvious possibility), the Champions of France? Hull being the reigning champions on this side of the channel, of course. Who did Hull beat in the final and where was it played? Was it a biggish deal at the time, say on a par with winning the Yorkshire cup, or more of a glorified exhibition game? Did the competition/game get played for a few years, or was it one of RL's quickly abandoned experiments?

Very demanding post, I know, but I like these curios that RL seems to be especially rich in.

Re: All time greatest Hull FC team No.s 8 and 10 Prop Forwar : Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:47 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

I've wondered in the past, when looking at Hull's list of honours, about the European Club Championship. Was it a full competition or a one off match against (most obvious possibility), the Champions of France? Hull being the reigning champions on this side of the channel, of course. Who did Hull beat in the final and where was it played? Was it a biggish deal at the time, say on a par with winning the Yorkshire cup, or more of a glorified exhibition game? Did the competition/game get played for a few years, or was it one of RL's quickly abandoned experiments?

Very demanding post, I know, but I like these curios that RL seems to be especially rich in.

It was a tournament held just the once and featured Hull and Halifax as English Champions and runners up from the previous season plus Albi and Carcasonne the top two from France.

Hull won the title with five wins and a draw from the six matches (Hull and Halifax's league games doubled as European Championship games). It seemed to have been popular, one of the games against Albi at The Boulevard was played on a Monday night due to a crowded fixture list and the attendance was 10,000. It was the third home game in four days after Carcasonne on the Friday and a league game with Bradford on the Saturday.

Mick Scott scored a last minute drop in the Albi game to earn Hull a draw. A big win over Halifax a week later won us the trophy.