Re: Kelly : Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:22 pm  

ccs wrote:

Ah, I didn't realise that he had been "dropped" to the bench.
There's me thinking it's a 17 man squad, with player rotations.
I guess resting players can be classed as dropped as well when it suits.

Losing a starting place to the bench is, to me, being dropped. Not a case of "when it suits", but that's up to your interpretation. My opinion is that Connor and Kelly were working well.

Re: Kelly : Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:39 pm  

I don't disagree about Connor and Kelly working well, but we also need Sneyd to be working well.
He's not going to regain his form if he's not playing, and losing Kelly for key games at this stage of the season is bound to have been a worry. And now it's happened.
It's not as if the Kelly/Connor combination had been excluded from the Saints game.

Re: Kelly : Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:59 pm  

ccs wrote:

I don't disagree about Connor and Kelly working well, but we also need Sneyd to be working well.
He's not going to regain his form if he's not playing, and losing Kelly for key games at this stage of the season is bound to have been a worry. And now it's happened.
It's not as if the Kelly/Connor combination had been excluded from the Saints game.

We'll see what Friday brings, an 80 minute effort would be good!

Re: Kelly : Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:14 pm  

Noticed someone criticise Griffin earlier on. Apart from maybe Fonua he's been our best player across the last two games imo. Much better from him. Obviously if Kelly is out then Connor will play 6, but if everyone is fit I'd quite like to see us go away from convention a little and try Connor at 13. He is big and physical enough to play there imo and gives us that extra pivot which would allow Shaul to roam around looking to get on the end of things rather than being involved in too many passing plays.

[Chris71]

Re: Kelly : Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:28 pm  

For me Sneyd just doesn't take the line in enough and against St's I don't think he did much if at all. It may not be a part of his game but when he actually done it he has looked a far better player. Think the difference when Connor/Kelly we're playing teams were second guessing due to the running and unpredictablilty of the partnership where as Sneyd can be very predictable at times.
Hopefully Kelly won't be out too long but he has been targeted a lot of late so but of a break may do him some good.

Re: Kelly : Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:37 pm  

Chris71 wrote:

For me Sneyd just doesn't take the line in enough and against St's I don't think he did much if at all. It may not be a part of his game but when he actually done it he has looked a far better player. Think the difference when Connor/Kelly we're playing teams were second guessing due to the running and unpredictablilty of the partnership where as Sneyd can be very predictable at times.
Hopefully Kelly won't be out too long but he has been targeted a lot of late so but of a break may do him some good.

If we can all see this, then presumably our coach can and should be encouraging him to run more and kick less. As you say he looks a completely different player when he backs himself. Lets hope Friday is the day he starts to show it regularly.

Re: Kelly : Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:38 pm  

Hessle Roader wrote:

If we can all see this, then presumably our coach can and should be encouraging him to run more and kick less. As you say he looks a completely different player when he backs himself. Lets hope Friday is the day he starts to show it regularly.

People have been saying that for a while now, is it an element of laziness or is he lacking confidence?

Re: Kelly : Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:46 pm  

Karen wrote:

Wow, you are seriously revelling in a player's injury. I honestly don't know how anyone can enjoy a player getting injured in the way you have. How very sad.

Can't really blame any kr fan for enjoying Kelly getting injured when you consider what he did to rovers and the end result.I'd feel the same TBH. It's not like he's in hospital with a suspected broken neck or even a career ending injury. Always going to get stick though for posting on here and quite right. Fingers crossed fit for the semi but if not 90%+( no players 100% this time of year) wouldn't risk it.

Re: Kelly : Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:10 pm  

Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:

Noticed someone criticise Griffin earlier on. Apart from maybe Fonua he's been our best player across the last two games imo. Much better from him. Obviously if Kelly is out then Connor will play 6, but if everyone is fit I'd quite like to see us go away from convention a little and try Connor at 13. He is big and physical enough to play there imo and gives us that extra pivot which would allow Shaul to roam around looking to get on the end of things rather than being involved in too many passing plays.

Absolutely agree, criticism of Griffin on his last two performances is completely unjustified IMO.

Re: Kelly : Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:48 pm  

FFS will people stop going on about Sneyd attacking the line!!!! Its not his game!!!! Hes an organiser and a kicker - now these are areas he could improve on as hes very hot and cold and needs more consistency but lots of that depends on how the teams playing. The pack doesnt have to be dominating but the team has to be playing good percentage rugby for Sneyds game to work and unfortunately too many errors ruin our percentage plays and nullifies Sneyds key attributes