Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:46 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

I'm sure there is much more to this than we will ever know

We won't be the only club either!

[Kosh]

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:00 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

I'm sure there is much more to this than we will ever know

Wouldn't surprise me at all. If the RFL do decide to hold a full enquiry it might turn up some very interesting stuff.

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:08 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Club bias aside, we should be punished IMO. The fact is that although those involved are no longer here, our CEO was involved in trying to cover up the events surrounding a failed drugs test which is a disgrace for a senior official of any sporting club. If it were any other club I'd be of the opinion they should be punished so I can't change my views just because it's my club.

If there are no sanctions, then where is the incentive for no one to do it again?

Totally agree.

[Kosh]

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:10 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

If there are no sanctions, then where is the incentive for no one to do it again?

There have been sanctions - against the people who committed the offences. All three of them have very likely had their careers terminated. What extra deterrent would it be for people who weren't even at the club at the time to be sanctioned?

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:20 pm  

Kosh wrote:

There have been sanctions - against the people who committed the offences. All three of them have very likely had their careers terminated. What extra deterrent would it be for people who weren't even at the club at the time to be sanctioned?

Any punishment will be for bringing the game into disrepute rather than the offences that took place.

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:04 pm  

Kosh wrote:

There have been sanctions - against the people who committed the offences. All three of them have very likely had their careers terminated. What extra deterrent would it be for people who weren't even at the club at the time to be sanctioned?

Plenty of deterrent at Hull and other clubs to not do anything in the future if it means a fine or points deduction. Otherwise you just get some other sap to be the fall guy next time

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:05 pm  

SEAN LONG is said to be 'devastated' at being caught up in the drugs scandal that led to best pal Martin Gleeson getting suspended. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... -Long.html

SEAN LONG is said to be 'devastated' at being caught up in the drugs scandal that led to best pal Martin Gleeson getting suspended. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... -Long.html

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:15 pm  

wonder if "uncle kath" will come to the k.c nxt season any time or just when leeds play us ???

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:28 pm  

A few thoughts...

What puzzles me about this affair is the behaviour of James Rule in that what he has done seems so stupid and irrational. In Gleeson's case, the whole affair is easily explained by his proven record of being dim and naive off the field.

James Rule, however, whatever his faults, is not stupid, so this leads one to wonder if there is a lot more "behind" this than the public findings display.

Talking of behind, again whatever his faults, don't think Rule should carry the can for the empolyment and retention of Agar. It was Kath Hetherington who stood squarely behind him.

As for Agar's role in the affair, at least we should look at what was (presumably) his selection of someone so clearly second rate in the vital role of conditioner. Watching the games you often wondered how our conditioning stacked up against the top sides, think it is safe to say that someone who can't even check a supplement on a website is unlikely to be at the cutting edge of strength and conditioning. Pleased that our new conditioner is clearly from a different intellectual level, someone who on this basis would not have been employed by Agar!

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:37 pm  

Chris28 wrote:

Still don't understand what Rule thought he would gain by not letting Gleeson and Cooper take the fall. As others have said, it was hardly the greatest season ever and we were never serious challengers.

Let them get bans and walk away embarrassed but safe. Poor judgement again from Mr R

In a sad way I kind of hope they investigate it further because I feel sure they would find that someone else was pulling the strings, as has already been said JR is no fool and he must have had some support/pressure from above.