: Mon May 18, 2009 12:34 pm  

Whiting wrote:

With Briers gone and the addition of Orford, Wire will be almost totally built around overseas players

I think that will change too, IF smith stays, he likes to bring through young players to develop them and give them chance, by good coaching he improves them!!

: Mon May 18, 2009 12:36 pm  

UllFC wrote:

can't see why we would be any less of an attraction, we have a lot of cap to spend, and have achieved more success than Warrington have this decade, play to bigger crowds in a better ground, the only advantage Wire have is that Tony Smith is a respected coach.

They will be willing to pay that extra bit to secure him like they did with Monaghan when we were in for him.

: Mon May 18, 2009 12:37 pm  

It really doesn't matter who we sign because Agar and Sharp will coach any talent out of them anyway.

: Mon May 18, 2009 12:39 pm  

PAUL M wrote:

They will be willing to pay that extra bit to secure him like they did with Monaghan when we were in for him.

this time I think the board realise they stand to lose a lot of money if they don't sort our problems out, so i'd hope they'd be more ambitious about getting a halfback this time

and with Monaghan I'm glad we didn't get him in the end, i think he's been very disappointing for Warrington

: Mon May 18, 2009 12:41 pm  

UllFC wrote:

this time I think the board realise they stand to lose a lot of money if they don't sort our problems out, so i'd hope they'd be more ambitious about getting a halfback this time

and with Monaghan I'm glad we didn't get him in the end, i think he's been very disappointing for Warrington

Yeah but so has king et al there, could have been deeper problems there that Smith seems to be sorting, may get better performances from now!

: Mon May 18, 2009 12:47 pm  

I think Whiting is one of our better players, and the likes of him and Graham Horne are not the problem. Its the top earners in the key positions who are under performing. The Salary cap stops every team from having 17 star players.

: Mon May 18, 2009 12:56 pm  

Zaphod wrote:

Its the top earners in the key positions who are under performing.

Which ones?

: Mon May 18, 2009 12:58 pm  

Zaphod wrote:

I think Whiting is one of our better players, and the likes of him and Graham Horne are not the problem. Its the top earners in the key positions who are under performing. The Salary cap stops every team from having 17 star players.

Having a player like Graham Horne being a regular starter is a problem IMO, he's only here because of his brother IMHO.

[Kosh]

: Mon May 18, 2009 1:00 pm  

PAUL M wrote:

They will be willing to pay that extra bit to secure him like they did with Monaghan when we were in for him.

If the board allow Orford to be bought out from under us and we end up with Briers or similar, there will be Hell to pay. And I think they know that.

: Mon May 18, 2009 1:02 pm  

Kosh wrote:

If the board allow Orford to be bought out from under us and we end up with Briers or similar, there will be Hell to pay. And I think they know that.

What hell, loads of bitching on here, people will still go to the games and still buy the shirts, or i will anyway!!