Re: London Away : Mon May 13, 2024 4:50 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

No one have said they are great signings.

Just all better than we have.

If these were our only signings then yes I'd worry, but probably going to be at least 6 more players including 3 quota players to come in.

Which is fair enough if a stop gap for a year but these will all be on 2 year + contracts

Re: London Away : Mon May 13, 2024 5:01 pm  

mwindass wrote:

Like it or not Hardaker, Briscoe, Asiata, Holmes, Abdull and Satae are all improvements on what we currently have.

The rebuild required at the club is going to have to be done in stages. Firstly, we will need to assemble a squad who can at least steady the ship, produce slightly more consistency in performance and push us up to around 8th/9th in the table. From there we can then build on that, bringing in better players in order to challenge for a play-off spot and then from there, hopefully, to challenging once more towards the top end of the table.

As you say, the players listed above should help us in part one of the process, their experience alone should move us upward even if it is only slowly, heaven knows they cannot be worse than what we currently have.

We are not going to leap back into the top four in one fell swoop. We are currently sitting on around seven successive years of mistakes, it will probably take another seven years to undo all the wrong turnings we have made in the recent past. No-one decent will come here right now, until we can prove to the game that we have stopped being a basket-case club. If the club adopted a policy of only signing high-quality players we'll be waiting until doomsday for anyone to sign!!

We're going to have to suffer for some time. We are where we are due to our own mistakes and it is going to be a long road back with no short-cuts unfortunately.

Re: London Away : Mon May 13, 2024 5:16 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Which is fair enough if a stop gap for a year but these will all be on 2 year + contracts

Most players will be angling for more than a year though. It's probably the price we have to pay right now. It's well known thanks to Beaumont that they offered Asiata a two year deal for example but we've offered three. If it's the difference between getting a player and not getting a player (even if we consider them a stop gap) then we'll probably have to accept their terms. Players and their agents will likely be in the position of power with us right now.

Re: London Away : Mon May 13, 2024 5:23 pm  

BP1 wrote:

The rebuild required at the club is going to have to be done in stages. Firstly, we will need to assemble a squad who can at least steady the ship, produce slightly more consistency in performance and push us up to around 8th/9th in the table. From there we can then build on that, bringing in better players in order to challenge for a play-off spot and then from there, hopefully, to challenging once more towards the top end of the table.

As you say, the players listed above should help us in part one of the process, their experience alone should move us upward even if it is only slowly, heaven knows they cannot be worse than what we currently have.

We are not going to leap back into the top four in one fell swoop. We are currently sitting on around seven successive years of mistakes, it will probably take another seven years to undo all the wrong turnings we have made in the recent past. No-one decent will come here right now, until we can prove to the game that we have stopped being a basket-case club. If the club adopted a policy of only signing high-quality players we'll be waiting until doomsday for anyone to sign!!

We're going to have to suffer for some time. We are where we are due to our own mistakes and it is going to be a long road back with no short-cuts unfortunately.

Great post!

Re: London Away : Mon May 13, 2024 5:53 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

No one have said they are great signings.

Just all better than we have.

If these were our only signings then yes I'd worry, but probably going to be at least 6 more players including 3 quota players to come in.

Satae coming back? you were one who said he wouldnt be missed
Abdul laughed at by many on here due to his weight
Briscoe and Hardaker way past their best and Holmes cant even make Leighs first team squad
as i said it wouldnt matter who we signed as most on here will still make a case that its a good signing
just looks to me that there is no real plan in either player aquisition or a new team coach.
Where is the ambition?
If we are going to splash some money on quality like Asiata then Myler should be in Australia meeting
Agents,players and coaches as thats where a decent coach and the right quality players are going to come from

Re: London Away : Mon May 13, 2024 5:57 pm  

Roam Ranger wrote:

And how do you know he hasn't offered Leutele a deal? Maybe Leutele doesn't want to join us because we are a joke of a club? Having the greatest DOR in the game wouldn't make a blind bit of difference if players don't want to come. Same with the coaches. Perhaps we're adjusting our sights and targets to more realistic options given our current plight?

alternatively how do you know that he has?

Re: London Away : Mon May 13, 2024 6:00 pm  

ComeOnYouUll wrote:

How much will we be paying him?

And don't say it's "obvious" he'll be on a wedge because it isn't.

We shouldnt be paying him anything as he shouldnt be anywhere near the club especially if it a 2 year deal as reported

Re: London Away : Mon May 13, 2024 6:02 pm  

bonaire wrote:

alternatively how do you know that he has?

I don't. But neither do you. And I'm not the one acting as judge, jury and executioner.

Re: London Away : Mon May 13, 2024 6:15 pm  

bonaire wrote:

Satae coming back? you were one who said he wouldnt be missed
Abdul laughed at by many on here due to his weight
Briscoe and Hardaker way past their best and Holmes cant even make Leighs first team squad
as i said it wouldnt matter who we signed as most on here will still make a case that its a good signing
just looks to me that there is no real plan in either player aquisition or a new team coach.
Where is the ambition?
If we are going to splash some money on quality like Asiata then Myler should be in Australia meeting
Agents,players and coaches as thats where a decent coach and the right quality players are going to come from

Why don't you just give the guy a chance? Instead of telling him that everything he is doing is wrong and acting like you know better and can do better?

Same with our signings. Regardless of what you think, these players are coming or are already here. Get behind them, support them. Instead of writing them off.

As for ambition, we might have ambition. The attempt to get Rowley felt ambitious to me. Signing Asiata feels ambitous. But we also need to be realistic. We're joint bottom and quite frankly we are lucky that it's only joint bottom. That's how bad we are right now. That's the reality and that is going to be offputting for a lot of coaches and players. So it doesn't really matter how ambitious we are if people aren't interested. As BP1 said, we're likely going to have to prove to the game that we are no longer a basket-case before we're treated seriously. Doesn't stop us from being ambitous, doesn't stop us from trying. It just means that the reality won't necessarily match those ambitions.

Re: London Away : Mon May 13, 2024 6:28 pm  

Roam Ranger wrote:

Why don't you just give the guy a chance? Instead of telling him that everything he is doing is wrong and acting like you know better and can do better?

Same with our signings. Regardless of what you think, these players are coming or are already here. Get behind them, support them. Instead of writing them off.

As for ambition, we might have ambition. The attempt to get Rowley felt ambitious to me. Signing Asiata feels ambitous. But we also need to be realistic. We're joint bottom and quite frankly we are lucky that it's only joint bottom. That's how bad we are right now. That's the reality and that is going to be offputting for a lot of coaches and players. So it doesn't really matter how ambitious we are if people aren't interested. As BP1 said, we're likely going to have to prove to the game that we are no longer a basket-case before we're treated seriously. Doesn't stop us from being ambitous, doesn't stop us from trying. It just means that the reality won't necessarily match those ambitions.

Great post