: Thu May 28, 2009 11:52 am  

If Thorman plays against Saints, any respect i had for Agar will be gone and i'm sure many will feel the same.

: Thu May 28, 2009 11:52 am  

The answer to your problem with Thorman DROP HIM and sign SEAN LONG for the next 2 year's?

SIMPLES

: Thu May 28, 2009 12:10 pm  

Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:

Berrigan looked as though he was trying to, unfortunately the majority of the team look so clueless it isn't funny any more. It's one thing having your 'tail up' and looking enthusiastic for the first part of the game, but when it matters you need structure and a game plan, we have neither.

You're shooting yourself in the foot!
We didn't have structure in the second half because our hooker had to move to SH because Thorman was pi$$ poor as per! Which in turn changed our game plan!

Think about it! Thorman needs to say bye bye.

: Thu May 28, 2009 12:23 pm  

PAUL M wrote:

Our season has not been ruined by Thorman I would agree but he has played a good part in our poor form. Of course the coaching needs looking at as RA and JS seem to be clueless when it comes to picking sides and employing different tactics to suit the opponents. The thing is that Thorman just looks as though he doesn't care or that he is even trying, I know he probably does care but those tackles he attempts, well you can't even call them tackles, are simply awful and right now he is too much of a liability to have in the team.

Completely agree with that comment, any sort of variation in tactics or ideas seem to be non-existent.
As for Thorman, his performance on Tuesday should mean he should not play against Saints. If he does, what sort of message does that send out to the rest of the squad?

: Thu May 28, 2009 12:24 pm  

airliebird58 wrote:

Completely agree with that comment, any sort of variation in tactics or ideas seem to be non-existent.
As for Thorman, his performance on Tuesday should mean he should not play against Saints. If he does, what sort of message does that send out to the rest of the squad?

You only have to look at Wire since Tony Smith went there, his influence is starting to show, imo he is a fantastic coach.

: Thu May 28, 2009 12:27 pm  

tommyfromhull wrote:

You're shooting yourself in the foot!
We didn't have structure in the second half because our hooker had to move to SH because Thorman was pi$$ poor as per! Which in turn changed our game plan!

Think about it! Thorman needs to say bye bye.

And we all know that Agar will never deviate from his game plan. Fack me, he even picks when each sub will come on 3 days before a match!! I nearly fell off my chair when i saw Thorman had been subbed!

: Thu May 28, 2009 12:32 pm  

We were talking with a couple of SL players a few weeks back and both just said how awful Thorman's defence is. The whole league must know about it but Tuesday is probably the first time this year it has been properly exposed.

: Thu May 28, 2009 12:54 pm  

PAUL M wrote:

You only have to look at Wire since Tony Smith went there, his influence is starting to show, imo he is a fantastic coach.

And you saw with his brother here how a good coach can mould ordinary players into doing the extraordinary. A good coach can organise a team, see weaknesses in the opposition and form a plan, and change things of the hoof if need be!

: Thu May 28, 2009 1:05 pm  

airliebird58 wrote:

And you saw with his brother here how a good coach can mould ordinary players into doing the extraordinary. A good coach can organise a team, see weaknesses in the opposition and form a plan, and change things of the hoof if need be!

Which are all things that our coaches seem incapable of doing. We have one plan, its not very elaborate and we will not/can not deviate from it.

: Thu May 28, 2009 1:12 pm  

PAUL M wrote:

Which are all things that our coaches seem incapable of doing. We have one plan, its not very elaborate and we will not/can not deviate from it.

You have to wonder what exactly Jon Sharp has picked up coaching and playing under the likes of Brian Smith, Ian Millward, Brian Noble and David Waite dont you?

Maybe more influenced by Tony 'The Tank' Gordon....