Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:40 am  

The sad thing is the whole situation stinks,and those responsible have left the crap behind for someone else to clean up.
Lets hope for reasonable success on the pitch so as we can leave this farce behind us.

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:21 pm  

Kosh wrote:

If Kath and co were still here that'd be valid. How much of a deterrent is it to folk who weren't involved in the first place?

Plenty I would have thought. I'm sure a big fine or points deduction would deter any club owner/senior official from doing anything similar in the future. A slap on the wrist and losing a couple of patsys is hardly likely to deter anyone

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:03 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Plenty I would have thought. I'm sure a big fine or points deduction would deter any club owner/senior official from doing anything similar in the future. A slap on the wrist and losing a couple of patsys is hardly likely to deter anyone

jake are you talking about worst case scenario,s or do you think its highly likely we will be hit with points deductions or a huge fine

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:09 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Plenty I would have thought. I'm sure a big fine or points deduction would deter any club owner/senior official from doing anything similar in the future. A slap on the wrist and losing a couple of patsys is hardly likely to deter anyone

But why are you advocating that Pearson and his team need a deterrent? There's been nothing in his previous administering of sporting clubs to indicate that he operates with anything other than the highest integrity.

Fining Hull now would make absolutely no difference to the way Pearson operates and other clubs are not daft enough not to acknowledge that fact.

Punishment of the individuals may make people reflect on their own accountabilities within office, though, and make them more likely to consider the consequences of their own actions. Punishing Hull would be a token gesture that may make the RFL appear to be addressing issues in a tough way to certain naive parties. In reality, it would have no,effect at all, imo.

[Mild Rover]

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:25 pm  

WormInHand wrote:

But why are you advocating that Pearson and his team need a deterrent? There's been nothing in his previous administering of sporting clubs to indicate that he operates with anything other than the highest integrity.

Fining Hull now would make absolutely no difference to the way Pearson operates and other clubs are not daft enough not to acknowledge that fact.

Punishment of the individuals may make people reflect on their own accountabilities within office, though, and make them more likely to consider the consequences of their own actions. Punishing Hull would be a token gesture that may make the RFL appear to be addressing issues in a tough way to certain naive parties. In reality, it would have no,effect at all, imo.

I suppose you could get a disrepute charge. Melbourne Storm's punishment affected guiltless new arrivals iirc. That was more systemic though.
I'd surprised if any more came of it and personally don't think it should. Let's get on with the Rugby.

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:02 pm  

Rule Banned Gleeson Banned The conditioner Banned The three people
involved ..Testing been done since nor other player found to be taking
the tablets UKDA have got the people concerned ..Job done
You cannot penalize the innocent ..So far the new Board have done no Wrong
Why should they suffer for other peoples wrong doing's ..If you want your pound of flesh
go after the Old Board ..But that will not happen

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:28 pm  

In case you just can't get enough of it:
@MartynSadler
Martyn Sadler
In #LeagueExpress tomorrow we will give a complete account of the Hull FC #rugbyleague debacle in the Martin Gleeson affair.

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:37 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

In case you just can't get enough of it:
@MartynSadler
Martyn Sadler
In #LeagueExpress tomorrow we will give a complete account of the Hull FC #rugbyleague debacle in the Martin Gleeson affair.

Interesting to see that he has met up with max clifford.Just hope he implicates Kath and Agarin it all as i for one don't believe they were innocent in all this.

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:11 pm  

WormInHand wrote:

But why are you advocating that Pearson and his team need a deterrent? There's been nothing in his previous administering of sporting clubs to indicate that he operates with anything other than the highest integrity.

Fining Hull now would make absolutely no difference to the way Pearson operates and other clubs are not daft enough not to acknowledge that fact.

Punishment of the individuals may make people reflect on their own accountabilities within office, though, and make them more likely to consider the consequences of their own actions. Punishing Hull would be a token gesture that may make the RFL appear to be addressing issues in a tough way to certain naive parties. In reality, it would have no,effect at all, imo.

I'm saying the whole game needs a deterrent.

I'm assuming by your comments that you believe that sanctions for breaches of the salary cap are also not a deterrent to club owners? The facts would seem to say otherwise

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:14 pm  

It would be worth a fine and a points deduction for a thorough RFL investigation IMO to see how deep it went