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While it’s frustrating, I reckon at the moment we score between around 0.4-0.5 from a possible max of 1 point for stadium utilisation, no reason we couldn’t average around 15K if we had a competing side, that would take us to 0.6 points, I doubt IMG will be around for another 3 year cycle but that’s not the point.

For perspective after a quick look at last years attendances as a rough average it looks like Leeds (highest overall graded side initially) will score around 0.6-7 for the same criteria. Wigan will be around 0.5-6, Saints around 0.7 of a point. Those are the benchmark clubs, I doubt they’ll be too bothered about not getting the full point. Rovers will likely score near the full 1 point, but they’d still love a bigger ground though and I’m sure they’d sacrifice 0.2 of a point for extra revenue.

Long winded post but the point being that the reason we are not a grade A club is mostly down to poor performance on the field and horrendous salary cap management. Get the other stuff right that’s within our control and missing out on a max 0.75% of a single point on the stadium becomes much less significant.
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With regards the IMG gradings, I would hope there is another phase of grading in the next 3 years.

I think all SL clubs should have a min capacity of 12k with the aim getting clubs towards 15k in the future. There is no point in just growing the game on social media, clubs need to keep growing the number of fans attending games.

SL crowds across the board are actually a lot healthier across the board than league attendances in the 80’s and 90’s. Challenge Cup and Play Off crowds struggle more.

Also there should be attention given to clubs who run Academies. It’s great that there has been ground improvements with scoreboards and advertising boards, but I’m still amazed player development has been ignored as is needed to sustain the future of the game.
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Medical treatment costs increased by £100,000.
Hardly surprising when staff budgets are slashed by 50%...
This is exactly what happens, when cost cutting occurs..
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... 1729570352
Medical treatment costs increased by £100,000.
Hardly surprising when staff budgets are slashed by 50%...
This is exactly what happens, when cost cutting occurs..
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... 1729570352
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weaver93 wrote:
Medical treatment costs increased by £100,000.
Hardly surprising when staff budgets are slashed by 50%...
This is exactly what happens, when cost cutting occurs..
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... 1729570352


He really is insulting our intelligence now...cuts back on back room staff now complaining that we've had to pay high medical bills as a result.

And where's the update on the covid loan payoff? And the takeover/investment? This bloke is taking us for a ride now, he'll shut up again after next weekend when the pass deadline has gone
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Medical treatment costs increased by £100,000.
Hardly surprising when staff budgets are slashed by 50%...
This is exactly what happens, when cost cutting occurs..
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... 1729570352


He really is insulting our intelligence now...cuts back on back room staff now complaining that we've had to pay high medical bills as a result.

And where's the update on the covid loan payoff? And the takeover/investment? This bloke is taking us for a ride now, he'll shut up again after next weekend when the pass deadline has gone
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Dan turning off comments on the article too, embarrassing really.

Just glad to see people are starting to realise the damage AP has done.
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Carty here by the end of the week.
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Don’t cut support staff budgets, then moan about the direct cost of that.
He’s unfortunately ruining his legacy of 2016 and 2017.
I still haven’t heard any contrition for the last five years, which culminated in whatever last season was.
There’s been a real lack of openness and we’ve all been taken for granted. The shtick has grown old now, and I’m bored of hearing it.
How many other clubs would get the numbers we do to watch the performances we’ve witnessed?

What finished it for me is the completed lack of professionalism this week, with his comments around his failed investment.
To use some of the words he did, when he has daughters himself, was pretty poor to say the least.
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Dan turning off comments on the article too, embarrassing really.

Just glad to see people are starting to realise the damage AP has done.


To be fair, whenever I look at the comments on the HDM site for articles about us, it largely appears to be Rovers fans trolling so I can't say I'm fussed about them turning the comments off.
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Irregular Hoops wrote:
Don’t cut support staff budgets, then moan about the direct cost of that.
He’s unfortunately ruining his legacy of 2016 and 2017.
I still haven’t heard any contrition for the last five years, which culminated in whatever last season was.
There’s been a real lack of openness and we’ve all been taken for granted. The shtick has grown old now, and I’m bored of hearing it.
How many other clubs would get the numbers we do to watch the performances we’ve witnessed?

What finished it for me is the completed lack of professionalism this week, with his comments around his failed investment.
To use some of the words he did, when he has daughters himself, was pretty poor to say the least.


His LinkedIn comments looked like those of a desperate man who's lost even more cash. I also thought he didn't look well on his photos with the Women's team (though I do appreciate it's 24 years since he arrived in this City and time catches up with all of us)

But overall he can't mismanage the club, lead it to 2nd bottom and a B grade licence then complain that the 'repair' bill is getting higher. It's like choosing not to service your car then moaning when a new engine is required years later.
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It does have a “last days of Berlin” feel about it at the moment.
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