FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
BP1 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1111
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 04 200519 years112th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
21st Nov 24 21:2521st Nov 24 13:00LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
In the land of wishful thinking once more. Patiently waiting for our time to finally arrive.
Signature
I've been on the internet and have already got a sense of the fans' passion for the club. They are very fanatical - Peter Gentle 12th September 2011.

Money doesn't talk it swears, Obscenity who really cares, Propaganda all is phony.

I'm the son and heir of a shyness which is criminally vulgar.

Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way.

A man who lives in hell can still aspire to heaven.

REDWHITEANDBLUE wrote:
Which takes the Championship winners points slightly over the points allocated to the team finishing bottom of SL that's the incentive for the champoinship clubs and also for SL clubs to finish higher in the SL table.


Ultimately, in RL 2024, you finished in 13th place and your performance rating for 2024 should be reflected accordingly. Also, how can you receive points for winning a trophy (1895 Cup) that twelve clubs weren't eligible to compete in. Although I did enjoy watching you make more noise at Wembley than the Wigan and Wire fans! (I stayed back to watch your rather one-sided stroll to victory).

Anyway, welcome back after your little sojourn away for twelve months, I suspect we will be locking horns in 2025, anxiously watching each others results!
RankPostsTeam
International Star4241
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 17 201312 years12th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
21st Nov 24 21:2020th Nov 24 19:02LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

BP1 wrote:
Ultimately, in RL 2024, you finished in 13th place and your performance rating for 2024 should be reflected accordingly. Also,
how can you receive points for winning a trophy (1895 Cup) that twelve clubs weren't eligible to compete in.
Although I did enjoy watching you make more noise at Wembley than the Wigan and Wire fans! (I stayed back to watch your rather one-sided stroll to victory).

Anyway, welcome back after your little sojourn away for twelve months, I suspect we will be locking horns in 2025, anxiously watching each others results!


That's just ridiculous!! I didn't realise that.

I've no axe to grind against Wakey as they are getting things right both on and off the pitch and will be as asset to SL but an A grade? no chance.
RankPostsTeam
Academy Player340No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 10 20241 year172nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
21st Nov 24 21:0420th Nov 24 10:53LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

UllFC wrote:
Just a thought, do we move games back to Friday nights just to get the TV number up?? More casual viewers on a Friday night, yea it's a random thought but it seems this system needs a box ticket mindset


Does it really matter? If the club think we bring in more revenue on weekends I don’t think an extra 0.1 of a point will change anything. Also, the bigger the crowds the more points we get for stadium utilisation, so you could chase the TV viewing figure points on by picking the best kick off viewing spot but end up losing more points then you’ve gained if the crowds drop because that kick off time might not be convient for match going fans.

I keep banging on about it but looking on the performance points breakdowns, if you take away the performance points Wigan only score the same as Wakefield for all the off field stuff, I doubt they’re losing sleep about it. Look after the performance stuff first and everything else will look after itself. We really don’t need to over think it.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Moderator8178
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 30 200421 years4th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
21st Nov 24 21:1121st Nov 24 12:23LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Never never land away with the fairies
Signature
I really enjoy long walks especially when they are taken by people I don't like!
Moderator

I don’t think any of us would argue that we aren’t deserving of a B grade due to our appalling on field performances. However the whole grading idea and method for me is completely flawed and not worth the paper it’s written on.
It’s great to see Wakey back in SL but the fact they have gained performance points in a league lower and a competition SL clubs weren’t eligible for just doesn’t sit right. Again the loss of points due to not being able to include the suburbs/surrounding area for both ourselves and KR and two clubs in the same city despite both achieving very good attendances. Thats before we get on to the screen issue and viewing figures etc, all of which point to me that the IMG grading is pointless and a worthless expensive exercise.

Hopefully having being downgraded to B will have an impact on us in terms of refocusing and getting the mindset reset and flushing out the general malaise within the club.

All in all as much as the likes of Cas have made some changes to their ground the Jungle still is light years away from the modern stadia requirements set out years ago and they haven’t performed much better than ourselves either yet are grade A due to the skewed logic in the grading.

For all Bonaire gets ridiculed for negativity but on the subject of IMG and their input into turning the sport around I think he’s been pretty much spot on in his view.

The game can ill afford to lose money but at £450K per year over 10 years to IMG the sport is literally haemorrhaging cash that it will simply not get back. I’m do believe in the old adage you have to speculate to accumulate but there’s not a cat in hells chance this IMG will offer anything remotely like value for money and it’s simply another in the long list of white elephants and hair brained schemes by clueless RFL and SL chairmen.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member4926
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 04 200322 years117th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
21st Nov 24 21:5220th Nov 24 18:18LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
[IMG]//i50.tinypic.com/a59ff5.gif[/IMG]

BP1 wrote:
Ultimately, in RL 2024, you finished in 13th place and your performance rating for 2024 should be reflected accordingly. Also, how can you receive points for winning a trophy (1895 Cup) that twelve clubs weren't eligible to compete in. Although I did enjoy watching you make more noise at Wembley than the Wigan and Wire fans! (I stayed back to watch your rather one-sided stroll to victory).

Anyway, welcome back after your little sojourn away for twelve months, I suspect we will be locking horns in 2025, anxiously watching each others results!


In relation to the 1895 Cup only 4 clubs out of SL could qualify for the Challenge Cup so in essence over 20 clubs are excluded from playing a SL side is that right?

Yes we took a lot to Wembley it reflects how far we have come since relegation. The owner has put in 2 to 3 million (his words) on and off the pitch so we are looking pretty good going forwards
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Moderator12646
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 01 200717 years140th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
21st Nov 24 22:0210th Nov 24 10:27LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Leicestershire.
Signature
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Moderator

Although I don't think it is central to IMG's remit to incentivise investment in player pathways, it is still included as a minimum requirement. Based on the proposed standards from March, Clubs that don't have an RFL-approved Talent and Performance Pathway lose 0.25 in the first year that is the case, 0.5 in the second and a whole grade (e.g. A to B) in the third and thereafter.

Onfield performance would have been better based on games won, rather than finishing places, imo. Maybe a Championship win being worth 0.4 of a SL win or something like that.

Edit: Is there any evidence that the £500k paid for IMG services is an annual, ongoing commitment?
RankPostsTeam
International Star3338
JoinedServiceReputation
May 12 201114 years173rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
15th Nov 24 06:375th Nov 24 10:38LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
West Hull
Signature
All men are created equal, some work harder in preseason.
-Emmitt Smith

500k p/a is pennies for big consultancy work. Probably got a few oxbridge interns coming up with all this guff, which would explain a lot.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member4792
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 10 200222 years24th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
21st Nov 24 10:1720th Nov 24 19:25LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Kingston upon Hull F.C.

the cal train wrote:
500k p/a is pennies for big consultancy work. Probably got a few oxbridge interns coming up with all this guff, which would explain a lot.


Someone once showed a picture of the IMG “team”.
Intern was the word that sprang to my mind.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner3695
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 03 200421 years147th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
22nd Nov 24 00:3921st Nov 24 08:37LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
United Kingdom
Signature
I have lost interest

When will we ever see the new owner of FC being announced ?
Didn’t I read Adam was going to clarify ownership details very soon ?
I’m in Hull for another week
Glorious weather !
RankPostsTeam
Academy Player340No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 10 20241 year172nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
21st Nov 24 21:0420th Nov 24 10:53LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Tarquin Fuego wrote:
Didn’t I read Adam was going to clarify ownership details very soon ?
!


Don’t think I’ve ever seen any quotes from anyone regarding clarifying ownership. Lots of people are reasoning that they wouldn’t organise a fans forum and dinner event for early November after the season we’ve had without some good news announced first, I absolutely think they’d be capable of being so tone deaf though and people are giving them far too much credit.
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google Adsense [Bot] and 194 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Hull FC


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
13m
Transfer Talk V5
Whino4life
497
30m
Dual Reg
financialtim
6
Recent
Catalan Away
jonh
3
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
56s
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
5572
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2588
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4008
1m
Transfer Talk V5
Whino4life
497
2m
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
2m
Film game
karetaker
5600
2m
Rumours and signings v9
tyr
28893
2m
Catalan Away
jonh
3
2m
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
2m
How many games will we win
Start@1873
1
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
3
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
karetaker
14
TODAY
Fixtures
Start@1873
10
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
271
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
489
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1251
England's Women Demolish The W..
1074
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1311
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1103
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1359
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1905
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2122
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2366
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1941
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2177
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2643
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2070
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2149
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
13m
Transfer Talk V5
Whino4life
497
30m
Dual Reg
financialtim
6
Recent
Catalan Away
jonh
3
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
56s
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
5572
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2588
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4008
1m
Transfer Talk V5
Whino4life
497
2m
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
2m
Film game
karetaker
5600
2m
Rumours and signings v9
tyr
28893
2m
Catalan Away
jonh
3
2m
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
2m
How many games will we win
Start@1873
1
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
3
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
karetaker
14
TODAY
Fixtures
Start@1873
10
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
271
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
489
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1251
England's Women Demolish The W..
1074
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1311
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1103
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1359
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1905
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2122
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2366
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1941
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2177
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2643
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2070
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2149


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!