Re: Recruitment 2020 : Wed May 15, 2019 11:37 am  

Jake the Peg wrote: Reducing numbers and adding quality then you advocate signing Adam swift? Hes garbage. We already have a garbage saints cast off winger and don't need another need to play in the reserves. 2 first choice wingers with one half decent one in reserve plus some kids who could do a job. Buchanan looks a decent prospect and doesn't need someone else blocking his path to the first team Not too much on here, but most have good words about Swift, I wonder who is right .you who has probably seen him only a few times or the fans who watch him every week? http://forums.redvee.net/showthread.php ... yers/page4 if you are wanting 5/6 top players you are in dreamland, I rather have a decent SL winger and bring in some top forwards. He is better than Dawson and Logan and has real pace which we lack, he will prov8de good competition to the other two if they both stay.

Jake the Peg wrote: Reducing numbers and adding quality then you advocate signing Adam swift? Hes garbage. We already have a garbage saints cast off winger and don't need another need to play in the reserves. 2 first choice wingers with one half decent one in reserve plus some kids who could do a job. Buchanan looks a decent prospect and doesn't need someone else blocking his path to the first team Not too much on here, but most have good words about Swift, I wonder who is right .you who has probably seen him only a few times or the fans who watch him every week? http://forums.redvee.net/showthread.php ... yers/page4 if you are wanting 5/6 top players you are in dreamland, I rather have a decent SL winger and bring in some top forwards. He is better than Dawson and Logan and has real pace which we lack, he will prov8de good competition to the other two if they both stay.

Re: Recruitment 2020 : Wed May 15, 2019 12:40 pm  

Swift would be a good back up but not sure he’s good enough to be a regular for a team wanting to be challenging for trophies. Plus do we really need another experienced winger providing we keep Ratu, Faraimo and Dawson, then we still have the young lad Graham, Buchanan and Griffin to cover after that.

Re: Recruitment 2020 : Wed May 15, 2019 2:37 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

We’d more than happily keep Swift, and a year ago it was a close run race between him and Grace. But Grace has really kicked on in the last year and Swift has rejected our reduced contract offer since he’s now backup.

He’s good enough for first team rugby in SL, just not ahead of Makinson or Grace

If as you say he’s rejected the contract and wants first team rugby, I can’t see him coming to FC. Especially if we resign Ratu.

Re: Recruitment 2020 : Wed May 15, 2019 4:11 pm  

Looks like Litten is,staying, which is good news, just need to find him some gametime, possible play Houghton at LF like we have in a few games.

I get the feeling Hadley will stay also.

Re: Recruitment 2020 : Wed May 15, 2019 4:36 pm  

Dave K. wrote: Not too much on here, but most have good words about Swift, I wonder who is right .you who has probably seen him only a few times or the fans who watch him every week? http://forums.redvee.net/showthread.php ... yers/page4 if you are wanting 5/6 top players you are in dreamland, I rather have a decent SL winger and bring in some top forwards. He is better than Dawson and Logan and has real pace which we lack, he will prov8de good competition to the other two if they both stay. I don't care what a few saints fans think. Plenty of the same opinion as me that he's not good enough for a team with genuine aspirations to challenge at the top of SL. From what I've seen of him he's about as reliable with ball in hand as greg eden but a lot less likely to score. Will he leave saints to come to Hull unless we offer him a fair bit more cash or guaranteed first team spot? I doubt it very much. I'd be very disappointed with our ambition if swift ended up being a replacement for ratu or faraimo as he's not as good as either and for me it's pointless adding in yet another player who won't be first choice when we have dawson and buchanan who can both play there plus options to move a centre there if necessary. We're supposed to be having less players and more quality

Dave K. wrote: Not too much on here, but most have good words about Swift, I wonder who is right .you who has probably seen him only a few times or the fans who watch him every week? http://forums.redvee.net/showthread.php ... yers/page4 if you are wanting 5/6 top players you are in dreamland, I rather have a decent SL winger and bring in some top forwards. He is better than Dawson and Logan and has real pace which we lack, he will prov8de good competition to the other two if they both stay. I don't care what a few saints fans think. Plenty of the same opinion as me that he's not good enough for a team with genuine aspirations to challenge at the top of SL. From what I've seen of him he's about as reliable with ball in hand as greg eden but a lot less likely to score. Will he leave saints to come to Hull unless we offer him a fair bit more cash or guaranteed first team spot? I doubt it very much. I'd be very disappointed with our ambition if swift ended up being a replacement for ratu or faraimo as he's not as good as either and for me it's pointless adding in yet another player who won't be first choice when we have dawson and buchanan who can both play there plus options to move a centre there if necessary. We're supposed to be having less players and more quality

Re: Recruitment 2020 : Wed May 15, 2019 6:26 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

I don't care what a few saints fans think. Plenty of the same opinion as me that he's not good enough for a team with genuine aspirations to challenge at the top of SL. From what I've seen of him he's about as reliable with ball in hand as greg eden but a lot less likely to score.

Will he leave saints to come to Hull unless we offer him a fair bit more cash or guaranteed first team spot? I doubt it very much.

I'd be very disappointed with our ambition if swift ended up being a replacement for ratu or faraimo as he's not as good as either and for me it's pointless adding in yet another player who won't be first choice when we have dawson and buchanan who can both play there plus options to move a centre there if necessary. We're supposed to be having less players and more quality

Ill have Swift if it means we are concentrating on using our cap money on forwards which we are more desperate for.

Re: Recruitment 2020 : Wed May 15, 2019 7:15 pm  

jimmyfivebellies wrote:

Ill have Swift if it means we are concentrating on using our cap money on forwards which we are more desperate for.

I'd rather stick with what we have as back up and use the money to get better quality forwards

Re: Recruitment 2020 : Wed May 15, 2019 7:28 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

I don't care what a few saints fans think. Plenty of the same opinion as me that he's not good enough for a team with genuine aspirations to challenge at the top of SL. From what I've seen of him he's about as reliable with ball in hand as greg eden but a lot less likely to score.

Will he leave saints to come to Hull unless we offer him a fair bit more cash or guaranteed first team spot? I doubt it very much.

I'd be very disappointed with our ambition if swift ended up being a replacement for ratu or faraimo as he's not as good as either and for me it's pointless adding in yet another player who won't be first choice when we have dawson and buchanan who can both play there plus options to move a centre there if necessary. We're supposed to be having less players and more quality

I have to agree. I don't see it as a good signing however you look at it.

Either Ratu/Faraimo are leaving, and Swift is going to be first choice, in which case I would be disappointed. Or they are both staying and Swift is coming to be a back up, in which case I would be worried about how much cap we have tied up in back up wingers. He won't exactly be dirt cheap. There are other clubs where he would be a starter, so I imagine he will have other offers.

Re: Recruitment 2020 : Wed May 15, 2019 7:37 pm  

A lot will depend on Ratus situation.He might decide that he would be better off staying in the army

Re: Recruitment 2020 : Wed May 15, 2019 8:49 pm  

Really hope not, Ratu could be top class next season - good enough at the moment anyway, certainly keep Dawson, Logan & Swift out of the first team. His potential MUCH higher than the other fella's ( who are all competent but realistically backup & how many back up wingers do we need ).

Will be really disappointed if we lose Ratu or Bereta & only bring in Swift.