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Got to say I agree with the ones saying that whilst there have never been any direct accusations aimed at Gentle (or Bomber) there has certainly been inferences that our problems are their fault.
Just for example, this is from AP's programme notes last year ( www.hullfc.com/article/35357/rea ... atch-notes):
Quote There have been massive issues to address of late which are beyond the public domain that should have been dealt with long ago, and were unfortunately inherited by Lee and Motu Tony. Those issues will take time to sort, but they have already made huge advances along the right path.
"There have been massive issues to address of late which are beyond the public domain that should have been dealt with long ago, and were unfortunately inherited by Lee and Motu Tony. Those issues will take time to sort, but they have already made huge advances along the right path.
"Both of them are now making inroads into moulding their own squad for next season and we have some exciting signings confirmed and some close to being confirmed."'"
Now, that being said, I don't agree that the latest article makes any such inferences. At least not from LR. The closest we get from Radford IMO is:
Quote There have been massive issues to address of late which are beyond the public domain that should have been dealt with long ago, and were unfortunately inherited by Lee and Motu Tony. Those issues will take time to sort, but they have already made huge advances along the right path.
"When you look at the squad I inherited to the squad I will be putting out next year, I think everyone can agree that there has been vast improvements,"'"
Now you can look at that "inherited" part as an inference that he was left with a bad squad when he started out that he was not responsible for. Or you could look at it as LR simply saying he believes he's made improvements on the squad he started out with without any implications being made regarding the state of that squad. |
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Got to say I agree with the ones saying that whilst there have never been any direct accusations aimed at Gentle (or Bomber) there has certainly been inferences that our problems are their fault.
Just for example, this is from AP's programme notes last year ( www.hullfc.com/article/35357/rea ... atch-notes):
Quote There have been massive issues to address of late which are beyond the public domain that should have been dealt with long ago, and were unfortunately inherited by Lee and Motu Tony. Those issues will take time to sort, but they have already made huge advances along the right path.
"There have been massive issues to address of late which are beyond the public domain that should have been dealt with long ago, and were unfortunately inherited by Lee and Motu Tony. Those issues will take time to sort, but they have already made huge advances along the right path.
"Both of them are now making inroads into moulding their own squad for next season and we have some exciting signings confirmed and some close to being confirmed."'"
Now, that being said, I don't agree that the latest article makes any such inferences. At least not from LR. The closest we get from Radford IMO is:
Quote There have been massive issues to address of late which are beyond the public domain that should have been dealt with long ago, and were unfortunately inherited by Lee and Motu Tony. Those issues will take time to sort, but they have already made huge advances along the right path.
"When you look at the squad I inherited to the squad I will be putting out next year, I think everyone can agree that there has been vast improvements,"'"
Now you can look at that "inherited" part as an inference that he was left with a bad squad when he started out that he was not responsible for. Or you could look at it as LR simply saying he believes he's made improvements on the squad he started out with without any implications being made regarding the state of that squad. | |
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."I agree with everything said in the article. Where does he blame Gentle? He just says his squad will be better next season than the one he got from Gentle, I have to agree.
I'm no fan if Radford, but you are making a big deal out of a nothing story.'"
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I fully agree with the others on here that this is nothing more then b.s. and spin. Still blaming the previous regime for our current failings and predicament and setting the bar of success very low.
It buys Radford more time and offers optimism for next season to the fans who fall hook line and sinker for the nonsense the club churns out at times.
Pearson himself has said to me via e mail that the only mistake He made was appointing gentle so fook knows what he sees in Radford to think he is the messiah.
Radford cannot improve himself or the players any further and all this improved recruitment will do is cover and hide his coaching deficiencies with better players and God forbid it buys him a contract extension.
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| Quote Bombed Out="Bombed Out"I fully agree with the others on here that this is nothing more then b.s. and spin. Still blaming the previous regime for our current failings and predicament and setting the bar of success very low.
It buys Radford more time and offers optimism for next season to the fans who fall hook line and sinker for the nonsense the club churns out at times.
Pearson himself has said to me via e mail that the only mistake He made was appointing gentle so fook knows what he sees in Radford to think he is the messiah.
Radford cannot improve himself or the players any further and all this improved recruitment will do is cover and hide his coaching deficiencies with better players and God forbid it buys him a contract extension.'"
Exactly.
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| Quote Staffs FC="Staffs FC"Exactly.
If we finish top next year with improved recruitment that'll only be papering over the cracks IMO.'"
I assume you are trying to be sarcastic
If you don't like Radford or the club being criticised then reply with a meaningful post. |
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silly apologists, apologising. Radford is useless, we need a quality coach, and Motu can get a taxi with him too
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| Quote HullFC_1865="HullFC_1865"silly apologists, apologising. Radford is useless, we need a quality coach, and Motu can get a taxi with him too'"
Nobody is apologising for him. Most (maybe even all, except friends and family) supporters think Radford isn't up to the job. However there is zero chance of him leaving soon. He will end the season as head coach and start next season as head coach. Constant hand-wringing and complaining and going over the same points on every thread will not change that. |
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| Quote ComeOnYouUll="ComeOnYouUll"Nobody is apologising for him. Most (maybe even all, except friends and family) supporters think Radford isn't up to the job. However there is zero chance of him leaving soon. He will end the season as head coach and start next season as head coach. Constant hand-wringing and complaining and going over the same points on every thread will not change that.'"
do you really want me to waste my time quoting you, and others, making excuses for Lee? seriously, there is a village in East Hull missing an idiot called Lee, simple fact, he promised to walk, he has no honour. |
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| Quote HullFC_1865="HullFC_1865"do you really want me to waste my time quoting you, and others, making excuses for Lee? seriously, there is a village in East Hull missing an idiot called Lee, simple fact, he promised to walk, he has no honour.'"
I like you to find me quotes from all these apologists, I've no doubt they are a couple, but if say that 95% of Hull fans think he currently isn't up to the job. The difference is that most don't have a moan about the same thing every single day, making a big deal about a nothing article in which everything said is correct.
He isn't going anywhere, so we might as well get behind the club and hope he can turn it around, I think he needs some help, I'd like someone like Kear as assistant coach. |
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| Quote HullFC_1865="HullFC_1865"do you really want me to waste my time quoting you, and others, making excuses for Lee? seriously'"
You're only saying that because you know you can't. Only one or two posters on here have ever made excuses for Radford and COYH is certainly not one of them.
For reference, not getting your knickers in a knot at every available opportunity does not constitute 'making excuses'.
Quote HullFC_1865="HullFC_1865"there is a village in East Hull missing an idiot called Lee.'"
Classy. The very definition of a Keyboard Warrior. |
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| Quote bonaire="bonaire"I assume you are trying to be sarcastic
If you don't like Radford or the club being criticised then reply with a meaningful post.'"
I've put my point across many times both highly critical and supportive. I don't feel the need to trot out the same boring crap on every thread day in and day out like I read on here from the likes of yourself, bumpy and knowledge-free standee. You're as boring as our early season attack structure and tactics. The best thing about winning isn't the 2 points gained it's the fact that you lot go quiet for a week. Hope that means enough for you. |
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