Re: Breaking News... : Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:10 pm  

fun time frankie wrote:

To be fair to Hudgell I don't suppose he saw relegation in the foreseeable future he talked about

Too busy giving it large for the clapping seals it seems, empty vessel style. Humiliating if he's now hunting the crumbs from the FC table.

Re: Breaking News... : Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:26 pm  

.... he'll claim Abdull is a product of the academy.

Re: Breaking News... : Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:56 am  

easthull fc fan wrote:

His reply if you get one will be a dig at you or others not understanding him, I reckon a top shrink wouldn't understand talk 5H1T3 tony.

I've said everything I wanted to say regarding the matter.
However clearly you have more to say, I love it when you feel the need to get personal because it highlights your own issues even more.
You couldn't have a civil discussion if you tried, I pity you.

Re: Breaking News... : Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:42 am  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

I've said everything I wanted to say regarding the matter.
However clearly you have more to say, I love it when you feel the need to get personal because it highlights your own issues even more.
You couldn't have a civil discussion if you tried, I pity you.

But at least I don't make things up about the club eh bumpy, you talk so much tripe, you could always start a petition to try & remove me?

Re: Breaking News... : Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:42 am  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

I've said everything I wanted to say regarding the matter.
However clearly you have more to say, I love it when you feel the need to get personal because it highlights your own issues even more.
You couldn't have a civil discussion if you tried, I pity you.

My irony meter just disintegrated!!!!

Re: Breaking News... : Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:26 pm  

Back on topic, it's been over 3 weeks since AP said we are looking to sign an Outside Back and a Off Half (he said 2/3 weeks) and as far as I know Michaels has yet to sign a new contract. I wonder if we are sticking with what we've got.

Re: Breaking News... : Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:39 pm  

Seems to have gone a bit quiet .

Re: Breaking News... : Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:53 pm  

DGM wrote:

Yeah, bl00dy facts getting in the way of stuff.


Abdull or Washy do not, and can not, provide the same (or anywhere near the same) that Frank provides the side. Particularly as Frank is often thrown in when Ellis, Watts & Taylor are having a breather.

Thompson just isn't that good unfortunately, Hadley is a different sort of player, the other three are very young. If Frank were to leave, we'd still need one more IMO.

Sometimes as fans we're more impressed with the spectacular, and guilty of not quite noticing the hard work a player gets through. Not to mention the massive expectation heaped on Frank, along with him playing differently to how he did in the NRL.

His stats don't tell the full story, but they do tell part of a story. When he's on, he sticks his hand up, he grafts and he's more than effective:
- He made more carries than Ellis or Mini last year, in much less game time. His average carry is better than any other backrower we have, second in the forwards only to Taylor. He made 11 clean breaks, second in the forwards only to Mini (15) in much less game time. 20 offloads, again more than any other back rower we have. He made more tackle busts than Ellis , but behind Mini & Manu.

What you expect from him, and what Radford is asking him to do are two completely different things, and the latter is what he's fulfilling to a pretty high standard.

Did I mention washy or Abdull doing pritchards role...no,let them play as a ball handling 13 and not the 3 2nd row forwards like most teams do and we have enough cover in the 2nd row to allow us to free up for a quality stand off,which would benefit us more Imo.As for stats I prefer to go with what I have seen of him and I have been vastly under whelmed tbh.Thats just my opinion of him,now he may have a stormer next season and Il be big enough to admit i was was wrong.

Re: Breaking News... : Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:54 pm  

HFC Boy wrote:

Seems to have gone a bit quiet .

i`m starting to think these signings are not going to happen, just waiting for the article in the HDM stating were happy and we`ll go with what we have

Re: Breaking News... : Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:08 pm  

fc baldy wrote:

Did I mention washy or Abdull doing pritchards role...no,let them play as a ball handling 13 and not the 3 2nd row forwards like most teams do and we have enough cover in the 2nd row to allow us to free up for a quality stand off.

If Pritchard leaves (which is what you're suggesting you want), where do we get the go forward from that he provides us (as you can see from the stats)? Does that come from a ball handling lose forward? From Tommo? We have cover, yes, but it's not cover of adequate standard. Do we run mini & Manu into the ground even more?

I agree that we need a stand off, but not by losing Frank we don't.

fc baldy wrote:

As for stats I prefer to go with what I have seen of him and I have been vastly under whelmed tbh.Thats just my opinion of him,now he may have a stormer next season and Il be big enough to admit i was was wrong.

The bit in bold is what I was eluding to in my previous post.

You're underwhelmed because you're expecting Frank to do one thing, which I imagine is play out wide, make 20m carries, scatter defenders left right and centre etc, but the reality is, Radford has him doing a different role.

You should be judging him alone on that role, not the role you want him to do, but the role the coach wants him to do. Some things go unnoticed by a lot of fans, they tend to remember the spectacular and above the hard graft, which is why I've pointed to certain stats of his eclipsing the other back rowers we have at the club.

Of course it's your opinion, you're entitled to it, but it's not really credible if your only argument is "from what I saw I was vastly underwhelmed". Well, why? Why are you?