Re: Good Friday Derby: Record score for Hull KR : Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:51 pm  

pmarrow wrote:

I couldnt care less about KR to be honest with you, Id like to beat you in a derby but I know that just being better then you wont be enough or hasnt being enough for a good 95 percent of my time supporting FC over the last 30 years to wet my appetite.

If you not being considered relegation candidates anymore is progress then so be it. I cant help but feel you think your better then you actually are due to our current situation.

I mean we need to talk facts here, youll never attract home game crowds over 15000 no matter how good you are. It wasnt that long ago you had to beg for an academy license. It wasnt that long ago Hudgell spat his dummy out or you got relegated.

History should tell you one thing, nothing good lasts forever. If KR as a club get over there obsession at just wanting to beat FC and finish above them then you could start to compete for honours. I cant help but feel though most KR fans will be happy with this season knowing your main priority is achieved. Ask any player whose played for KR in SL and they will tell you what the main goal is.

Now who’s thinking the are more important than they are?

Re: Good Friday Derby: Record score for Hull KR : Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:56 pm  

Keiththered wrote:

Now who’s thinking the are more important than they are?

You cant disagree can you ?

Your very presence here shows your obsession.

Re: Good Friday Derby: Record score for Hull KR : Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:32 pm  

Keiththered wrote:

That’s a big smile for someone supporting a team that’s 11th out of 12 in the table and has just been trounced 0-40 at home.

Tough times for Hull FC at the moment (not for the first time in the last 45 years of supporting them) but rugby league doesn't define my life. Friday afternoon aside I've had a great weekend so far.

Re: Good Friday Derby: Record score for Hull KR : Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:33 pm  

Chris71 wrote: So Savelio was dropped based on performance levels so far according to Smith Seems mind blowing to me that he drops Savelio who has been one of the better performers (even after coming straight back in from injury) to bring back Lane who is & was dreadful and has been for a long while now. I get that he is trying to mix things up to see who is up to the task but think it’s been clear the majority ain’t going to change anytime soon. Think it’s time to he gave Staveley an opportunity. There are players still getting played that should never wear the shirt again and players sat on the sidelines that at the very least give their all when they do play. If Smith is trying to get a reaction then why not drop the lazy b@5tard5 instead and play the players that at least play like they give a 5h!t On that basis then Tuimavave should be dropped for the Leeds match but will he? Savellio will be back and he will drop Lane hopefully from a great height to wake him up

Chris71 wrote: So Savelio was dropped based on performance levels so far according to Smith Seems mind blowing to me that he drops Savelio who has been one of the better performers (even after coming straight back in from injury) to bring back Lane who is & was dreadful and has been for a long while now. I get that he is trying to mix things up to see who is up to the task but think it’s been clear the majority ain’t going to change anytime soon. Think it’s time to he gave Staveley an opportunity. There are players still getting played that should never wear the shirt again and players sat on the sidelines that at the very least give their all when they do play. If Smith is trying to get a reaction then why not drop the lazy b@5tard5 instead and play the players that at least play like they give a 5h!t On that basis then Tuimavave should be dropped for the Leeds match but will he? Savellio will be back and he will drop Lane hopefully from a great height to wake him up

Re: Good Friday Derby: Record score for Hull KR : Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:38 pm  

pmarrow wrote:

Ive alluded to it in the past but I genuinely feel the club over hype the squad and us as supporters over bag them when they fail.

Its almost as if they are rabbits in the headlights. Theres no doubt in my mind as soon as these players are out of our cauldron you will get some who will shine.

You only have to look at what Sneyd is producing these days.

Sneyds form is far more to do with the players he has around him and the style of play and nothing to do with so called pressure of playing for Hull FC

Re: Good Friday Derby: Record score for Hull KR : Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:50 pm  

pmarrow wrote:

Being our best forward doesnt mean he shouldnt be dropped, he didnt do alot more for me. We also have no idea what he was told to go out and do. If he is not doing what Smith wants from him then he should be dropped. None of this lot should be exempt theyve underperformed for far too long.

On that basis what do you think Lovodua was told to do by Smith for several weeks before the penny dropped,or Lane when he came back this weekend.
Also from your argument we wont see Tuimavave next week or any of the forward pack.
I agree with Dave K it was a bad call unless Savellio has said something.
Also Smith now makes himself look daft after giving his reasons for leaving Savellio out when he had clearly dropped him

Re: Good Friday Derby: Record score for Hull KR : Sun Apr 09, 2023 3:04 pm  

bonaire wrote:

On that basis what do you think Lovodua was told to do by Smith for several weeks before the penny dropped,or Lane when he came back this weekend.
Also from your argument we wont see Tuimavave next week or any of the forward pack.
I agree with Dave K it was a bad call unless Savellio has said something.
Also Smith now makes himself look daft after giving his reasons for leaving Savellio out when he had clearly dropped him

I think its glaringly obvious that the whole 17 arent doing what is asked of them. Who knows what is said or what Smith is trying to achieve.

I wasnt a huge fan of appointing Smith but my arguement here is that ive seen nothing from any of them to suggest they are exempt from being dropped. As for Carlos ill leave my unpopular opinion of him off here as I cant be bothered with that debate.

Unfortunatley for us we havent the squad to drop all 17 players. The funny thing in sport is if we had won the games proceeding these decisions nobody raises an eyebrow.

Re: Good Friday Derby: Record score for Hull KR : Sun Apr 09, 2023 4:08 pm  

Could it be that whilst savelio is our best forward, a bad performance by his standards is still far better than what the rest of the plodders offer, so whilst it may look good to us, still not good enough to Smith, as he knows what he's capable of

Re: Good Friday Derby: Record score for Hull KR : Sun Apr 09, 2023 4:58 pm  

pmarrow wrote:

Make no bones about it Rovers are a good team but you are not making progress, Hull are just getting worse.

Take the bias out of your post do you genuinely believe Hull KR aren't making progress?

[Chris71]

Re: Good Friday Derby: Record score for Hull KR : Sun Apr 09, 2023 5:18 pm  

bonaire wrote:

pmarrow wrote:

Ive alluded to it in the past but I genuinely feel the club over hype the squad and us as supporters over bag them when they fail.

Its almost as if they are rabbits in the headlights. Theres no doubt in my mind as soon as these players are out of our cauldron you will get some who will shine.

You only have to look at what Sneyd is producing these days.

Sneyds form is far more to do with the players he has around him and the style of play and nothing to do with so called pressure of playing for Hull FC

Agreed, any player that folds or can’t deal with pressure or expectation to perform is in the wrong job and not the type of player any club would want.

The problem we have is we have no leaders within the playing group at all and haven’t really since Ellis retired.
You only have to look at Sneyd in 2016 when he played in a team with players like Ellis, Pritchard, Mini & Sika.
A lot of people bagged Pritchard but his no nonsense approach within the team along with the likes of Ellis, Mini & Sika drive that squad to the success at Wembley on 16. Then after he’s gone it was followed up with Ellis, Mini & Sika still driving the team on. I really do believe it was that group of players that were the biggest reason we won the cups rather than the coaching team at the time.

Our lack of leaders in the playing squad is a contributing factor to why we throw the towel in as it’s not a team just a group of individuals.