Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:31 am  

Another coach with possibly a good style of rugby , Big decision for both Briers and the club to make .

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:32 am  

bonaire wrote:

you must be joking to think Briscoe and Chamberlain will improve us.
I hope Chamberlain is very short term but to give Briscoe an 18 month deal is crazy.His top level playing days are over,injuries catching up with him as they usually do at his age,plus he is not match fit having not played since round 3.
The problem is we are bin dipping for players.Clubs dont want to release players on loan and we are not an attractive proposition for players,thats why i think its better to go with what we have given we have seven players back shortly and concentrate our effort and available money into targets for next season.
We have players who can bring the ball out of backfield thay are called forwards and should be used a lot more than we do to do that job.
Of course we are not going to sign 17 quality players overnight thats why its important the club put their effort and money into players for next season.Sending Myler out to Australia for 2/3 weeks meeting agents face to face and talking to some players should be a priority.
Signing two or three average reserve players will not make any difference to our end of season league position or add any extra pay at the gate supporters so i dont see the point.
The only thing that will save this club is money to be able to add several quality players and a couple of real exciting names to get the fan base interested again in watching Hull FC

You keep mention that we are bin dipping. Maybe there's a reason for that? Just because we potentially have money doesn't mean we can go out and get quality and exciting names. Even if we send Myler out to Oz we are going to be a hard sell. We're going to need to put in one hell of a sales pitch about our potential if we are to attract quality or an exciting names. Or throw them a serious amount of cash. And even that might not be enough given our current plight.

So maybe we have to go for "average" players right now and in the immediate future because the reality is we are second from bottom of the league and have been on a downward trajectory for some time now. Maybe we have to start with players that can come in and do a job for us, take the players that actually want to be here, and build from there. Even if it takes time.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:45 am  

bonaire wrote:

you must be joking to think Briscoe and Chamberlain will improve us.
I hope Chamberlain is very short term but to give Briscoe an 18 month deal is crazy.His top level playing days are over,injuries catching up with him as they usually do at his age,plus he is not match fit having not played since round 3.
The problem is we are bin dipping for players.Clubs dont want to release players on loan and we are not an attractive proposition for players,thats why i think its better to go with what we have given we have seven players back shortly and concentrate our effort and available money into targets for next season.
We have players who can bring the ball out of backfield thay are called forwards and should be used a lot more than we do to do that job.
Of course we are not going to sign 17 quality players overnight thats why its important the club put their effort and money into players for next season.Sending Myler out to Australia for 2/3 weeks meeting agents face to face and talking to some players should be a priority.
Signing two or three average reserve players will not make any difference to our end of season league position or add any extra pay at the gate supporters so i dont see the point.
The only thing that will save this club is money to be able to add several quality players and a couple of real exciting names to get the fan base interested again in watching Hull FC

You really know nothing about Rugby.

Forwards returning the ball out the backfield, you lost me at that point.

I honestley think your a troll and this week is proving it, no right minded FC fan or RL fan would talk this amount of rubbish. Unless its looking for a reaction.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:52 am  

Just read some snippets from Briers, if that isn't a come and get me message I don't know what is.

Think he'd he an excellent choice, links to the area, worked in two of the best environments in the world. Connections in SL and the NRL.

Knows Myler too.

Now waiting for him to reject us

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:55 am  

If it is the case that it's Rowley that has rejected and not Salford, then he can't have fancied it.

None of us know how the discussions between him and us progressed. It could be that he surveyed what was on offer on the table and came to the conclusion he wouldn't be much better off than where he is now.
If he felt that he would be having to lead a club, and more importantly a fan base, with far higher expectations than what he currently has to contend with, and he came to the conclusion that he wouldn't have the tools to be able to carry out the job successfully, then he's probably decided he may as well stay put for the time being.
There is also the problem of uprooting to relocate here, which is never an easy decision for anyone in any walk of life.

We have to face it. We are not currently a very attractive proposition for coaches and players looking to further their career. Myler's biggest task is going to be persuading anyone half decent to throw their lot in with us. He is going to have to somehow sell the club to coach/players that we are once more a club heading in the right direction, make our resurrection sound like an exciting project that others will be excited to be a part of, create a buzz around Hull fc which will entice quality additions to join us here.

If Rowley has rejected us, and rejected us fairly swiftly at that, then it must be that he isn't convinced that the club is back on the right track. I know that if I was a decent RL coach I would want some reasonable assurances that the club are intending to move in an upward direction over the next couple of years.

If we can't give those assurances to anyone, then we are going to find it difficult to appoint any one above Championship level to come here. Myler really has got a job on his hands here. If he didn't know it already, he does now!!!

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:12 am  

pmarrow wrote:

You really know nothing about Rugby.

Forwards returning the ball out the backfield, you lost me at that point.

I honestley think your a troll and this week is proving it, no right minded FC fan or RL fan would talk this amount of rubbish. Unless its looking for a reaction.

Said before Bonaire is a dobbin wind up merchant

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:15 am  

Didn't realise that Briers isn't an assistant coach at the Broncoed, but a development coach (not 100% sure what that is).

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:17 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Didn't realise that Briers isn't an assistant coach at the Broncoed, but a development coach (not 100% sure what that is).

He's in charge of their attack. I think he was originally a development coach when he originally signed, but was quickly promoted to 1st team attack coach.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:19 am  

mwindass wrote:

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/what-now-hull-fc-take-9242443

Pretty concerned our preference is to target a domestic coach.

The coaches listed in the article I don't think would help.

Mcdermott. Just no. Strange and devisive individual.

Ward. Can't see him leaving Rovers, if he plays his cards right he could take over from Peters in a season or 2.

McGuire. Just can't see a Leeds legend and Rovers fan favourite and former coach working out.

I hope we go overseas tbh

My gut feeling is that, realistically, this is the recruitment area we are going to have to aim for, at least as far as the next appointment is concerned.

The talk of Briers/M. McGuire/Holbrook is fanciful wishing on our part I think. I feel that, right now in 2024, we are too great a risk for candidates of that nature to put their reputations on the line. The only way any one of those three will pitch in with us is if Myler can persuade them that we are a club on the move upwards once more and sell the club as an exciting prospect to be developed thereby enticing someone of that calibre to join us, or Pearson/Myler put a colossal salary on the table!

I hate to say it, but I think either Danny Ward or Danny McGuire (or Martin Gleeson?) would be our most realistic target. Whether any of them would take up the 'chalice' is another matter.
It's not as if we've temporarily lost our way any are simply in need of someone to steer the ship into calmer waters. We have fallen so far backwards that the job of resurrecting the club looks massive, it will be a brave (or desperate) soul that feels confident enough to want to take it on.

I wouldn't be too despondent if it was either Ward or McGuire taking over (that's just a realistic view from me on where we are right now). Maybe one of those can at least steer us upwards a touch, making us seem to be a more attractive choice in 2/3 years time for someone else to take over the reins.

I'm afraid we may have to walk (slowly) at first before we can contemplate running at full pelt once more. We are where we are for a reason and the road back is a long way ahead of us. I hope I'm wrong on this, but I honestly don't see any white knight in shining armour steaming in to rescue us and lead us to the summit. This is going to take an extraordinarily amount of hard work just to put us back on an even keel, before we can even think about challenging at the top again.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:25 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Didn't realise that Briers isn't an assistant coach at the Broncoed, but a development coach (not 100% sure what that is).

Attach coach. He was on the Bryan Fletcher radio show a couple of weeks back, and basically highlighted the massive gulf in their off field coaches compared to SL.

Briers is responsible for the attack for the side, but they also had a coach for the Back 5 (Darius Boyd), a middles coach, a defence coach, and then Briers is responsible for their shape and structure in attack