[Mild Rover]

Re: Pass Sales : Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:01 am  

Wellsy13 wrote:

The lack of disposable income is really starting to bite in rugby IMO.

ComeOnYouUll wrote:

The target of 10,000 was always a very ambitious one. If we start the season with between 8,000 and 8,500 then that is still not bad going given the continuing poor economic climate. I'm sure the figure will compare well with other clubs. I've not seen many claiming record sales.

Agree with all off that. I think you might sell a few more than that though. I was reading an article about season ticket sales at football clubs recently (the focus was on clubs outside the top flight) and apparently people tend to underestimate the amount of churn - people moving in and out of the area, getting too old/becoming old enough, losing/taking interest. Was the discount period only for renewals?

I've found seeing the pattern of sales quite an interesting 'experiment'. The idea of the milestone prize draws, which I had thought a very clever idea for getting people to buy early and build momentum, didn't really seem to work. Decent enough prizes, but longish odds and I guess either consciously or subconsciously people saw that and it didn't change much.

Re: Pass Sales : Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:24 am  

Mild Rover wrote:

I've found seeing the pattern of sales quite an interesting 'experiment'. The idea of the milestone prize draws, which I had thought a very clever idea for getting people to buy early and build momentum, didn't really seem to work. Decent enough prizes, but longish odds and I guess either consciously or subconsciously people saw that and it didn't change much.

I agree with that, things like having a meal with Bomber ain't going to encourage sales imo, however had we secured the services of a good number 7 I consider we would have sold more.
I think if we start the campaign well our attendances will gradually increase, & if we have a good season (better than last) we may see a rise in people prepared to commit to buying a pass.

I do believe it is important that the club reconsider the deadline next time and move it back to Dec 31st.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Pass Sales : Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:52 pm  

Bet Lynch wrote:

I agree with that, things like having a meal with Bomber ain't going to encourage sales imo, however had we secured the services of a good number 7 I consider we would have sold more.
I think if we start the campaign well our attendances will gradually increase, & if we have a good season (better than last) we may see a rise in people prepared to commit to buying a pass.

I do believe it is important that the club reconsider the deadline next time and move it back to Dec 31st.

A variation that maybe could work, in an everyone's a winner is a sort of way, is a 10k = 10% discount for everybody deal. There are one or two possible awkaward outcomes, but as long as they were planned for, that'd be fine.

In fairness, a free night in McRae's diary is going to be easier to find than a good 7 and even a slap up meal will be ~0.1% of the price.

Any business finds it easier to get custom in good times - which unfortunately these are not. IMO, that isn't just the biggest factor, but it is probably bigger than all the rest combined.

Re: Pass Sales : Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:51 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

A variation that maybe could work, in an everyone's a winner is a sort of way, is a 10k = 10% discount for everybody deal. There are one or two possible awkaward outcomes, but as long as they were planned for, that'd be fine.

In fairness, a free night in McRae's diary is going to be easier to find than a good 7 and even a slap up meal will be ~0.1% of the price.

Any business finds it easier to get custom in good times - which unfortunately these are not. IMO, that isn't just the biggest factor, but it is probably bigger than all the rest combined.

after reading the posts after mine, and now that im better informed as to other top teams pass sales. i think it would be fair to say ive definitely over estimated that we could have reached 10k by xmas, and also that ive underestimated how significant the recession has been

Re: Pass Sales : Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:35 pm  

The_Mighty_F90 wrote:

We might as well blame them for Greece, Spain and Portugal whilst we are at it.

However the labour party didnt run those countries although having seen the mess they are all in i think Blair may have had a hand in somewhere
Clever backpeddling isn't going to compensate for having once had a clueless to$$er in charge of the economy for a long time. Ordinary folk are getting poorer because they are having to pay for previous governments incredible mistakes - it's what Tories do...
by the way i am neither red or blue but can see the mess for what it is rather than the usual Hull blindly following labour party regardless of their performance routine....
John Prescott dont you labourites just miss him

Re: Pass Sales : Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:01 pm  

voodooroo wrote:

However the labour party didnt run those countries although having seen the mess they are all in i think Blair may have had a hand in somewhere
Clever backpeddling isn't going to compensate for having once had a clueless to$$er in charge of the economy for a long time. Ordinary folk are getting poorer because they are having to pay for previous governments incredible mistakes - it's what Tories do...
by the way i am neither red or blue but can see the mess for what it is rather than the usual Hull blindly following labour party regardless of their performance routine....
John Prescott dont you labourites just miss him

Kosh wrote:Clever marketing isn't going to compensate for having a clueless to$$er in charge of the economy. Ordinary folk are getting poorer - it's what Tories do. .

so the previous years under Labour were a major sucess then ,

I was actually backing up your comment if you read the full thread.

Re: Pass Sales : Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:51 pm  

The_Mighty_F90 wrote:

Kosh wrote:Clever marketing isn't going to compensate for having a clueless to$$er in charge of the economy. Ordinary folk are getting poorer - it's what Tories do. .

so the previous years under Labour were a major sucess then ,

I was actually backing up your comment if you read the full thread.

agreed matey!!!

Re: Pass Sales : Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:27 pm  

Anybody know what happens when you've fully paid by direct debit? Do they post the pass or does it have to be collected?

Re: Pass Sales : Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:28 pm  

voodooroo wrote: However the labour party didnt run those countries although having seen the mess they are all in i think Blair may have had a hand in somewhere Clever backpeddling isn't going to compensate for having once had a clueless to$$er in charge of the economy for a long time. Ordinary folk are getting poorer because they are having to pay for previous governments incredible mistakes - it's what Tories do... by the way i am neither red or blue but can see the mess for what it is rather than the usual Hull blindly following labour party regardless of their performance routine.... John Prescott dont you labourites just miss him This makes interesting reading http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ramesh- ... 07552.html

voodooroo wrote: However the labour party didnt run those countries although having seen the mess they are all in i think Blair may have had a hand in somewhere Clever backpeddling isn't going to compensate for having once had a clueless to$$er in charge of the economy for a long time. Ordinary folk are getting poorer because they are having to pay for previous governments incredible mistakes - it's what Tories do... by the way i am neither red or blue but can see the mess for what it is rather than the usual Hull blindly following labour party regardless of their performance routine.... John Prescott dont you labourites just miss him This makes interesting reading http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ramesh- ... 07552.html

Re: Pass Sales : Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:32 pm  

K-Diddy wrote:

Anybody know what happens when you've fully paid by direct debit? Do they post the pass or does it have to be collected?

Asked this question yesterday whilst getting tickets for friendlies and was informed that they are available for collection at the end of January once the final DD has been debited (for those who applied in Sept), didn't ask whether it could be posted.