Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss? : Mon May 28, 2018 1:02 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Could only see outright comp winner - Saints 11/8, us 10/1.

10/1 to win the Cup.
We should be 10/1 just to win the quarter final game.

Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss? : Mon May 28, 2018 2:28 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Could only see outright comp winner - Saints 11/8, us 10/1.

Would expect 3/1 ish for Sunday. 12 or 14 handicap. Depends on squads though. If Kelly plays it might be a fraction shorter.

Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss? : Mon May 28, 2018 3:09 pm  

Corals giving 12/1 today for hull fc to win the cup,just put a tenner on em.

Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss? : Mon May 28, 2018 3:57 pm  

Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:

Would expect 3/1 ish for Sunday. 12 or 14 handicap. Depends on squads though. If Kelly plays it might be a fraction shorter.

Could be right but we were a fraction bigger than 4/1 in places to beat Warrington on Friday and Saints are loads better than them.
Should be 5's minimum.

Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss? : Mon May 28, 2018 4:11 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

Could be right but we were a fraction bigger than 4/1 in places to beat Warrington on Friday and Saints are loads better than them.
Should be 5's minimum.

Maybe. But with our recent cup record, Faraimo back and Taylor expected back I would be surprised.

Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss? : Mon May 28, 2018 4:19 pm  

Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:

Maybe. But with our recent cup record, Faraimo back and Taylor expected back I would be surprised.

Suicide but I'm gonna bang us to win whatever price we are.

Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss? : Mon May 28, 2018 4:43 pm  

Wilde 3 wrote:

He spoke to my dad at exelby on Friday and said it would be the Wigan game. Wanted him back sooner but he did some running on Friday and he was still in a bit of pain. If he plays versus Saints then it could be risking him further

Which was exactly the point of the question I posed, he could play, but whether it benefits the club or indeed the player individually is another matter altogether. Losing Kelly for the rest of the season over him breaking down mid game and not up to par would be tantamount to tactical naivety.
Sure IF and that's a very big if, he plays and we pull off a win people will say it was the right move but in all honesty playing players when it's not just a risk in the sense of how they go but also their individual well being. What if a player gets an injury that puts them out for 3/6/9/12 months or even one that ends a career all on coming back too soon? The risk is simply not worth it IMHO as I've said.

Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss? : Mon May 28, 2018 4:58 pm  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

Which was exactly the point of the question I posed, he could play, but whether it benefits the club or indeed the player individually is another matter altogether. Losing Kelly for the rest of the season over him breaking down mid game and not up to par would be tantamount to tactical naivety.
Sure IF and that's a very big if, he plays and we pull off a win people will say it was the right move but in all honesty playing players when it's not just a risk in the sense of how they go but also their individual well being. What if a player gets an injury that puts them out for 3/6/9/12 months or even one that ends a career all on coming back too soon? The risk is simply not worth it IMHO as I've said.

It depends how much value we are putting on the cup I guess.

I would give him as long as possible, but if they have doubts then don't take the chance.

If he can't play though I have no idea how we will line up with Harris and Sanderson cup tied, and if Miloudi gets a ban (don't think he will, but it's possible) we are really stuck. Litten in the halves maybe?

Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss? : Tue May 29, 2018 8:32 am  

Let's go all out for this match !!! Top 4 may be a bit too much unless Leeds and Wigan implode and Cas choke lol

I say treat this as our Alamo and do whatever it takes to win. We can win !

Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss? : Tue May 29, 2018 8:39 am  

Tarquin Fuego wrote:

Let's go all out for this match !!! Top 4 may be a bit too much unless Leeds and Wigan implode and Cas choke lol

I say treat this as our Alamo and do whatever it takes to win. We can win !

Leeds already have.