Re: Salford v Hull 9th August Headlngley : Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:17 pm  

Rocknrolla69er wrote:

Matongo 53 appearances in what 5 seasons

It's not enough.

I'd release him he's 24

Oh come on, it's not even close to 5 seasons is it?

Debut in September 2015 where he played one S8 game, 2016 was never going to a season where he got lots of games given our lack of injuries, and in actual fact didn't get a game all season. 2017 was much the same getting only 7 games (possibly 9 from one source).
the last two seasons he's played 23 and 20 games respectively, he had a shoulder injury in 2019 which put him out for a fair while.

So your 53 in 5 seasons looks somewhat ignorant of the fact he was never going to get a chance to play any/many games in his first two full seasons.

if you want to make a comparison, Scott Taylor played only 52 games in four full seasons at KR at the start of his career, given their actual strength in depth compared to ours I'd say that's comparable in terms of appearances per season and opportunity to play. We had a load of props in front of Masi and very few injuries in 2016, he probably wasn't even really ready.

Simply basing appearances at the start of your career is not a good yardstick at all, that said, do I think he should be doing a bit better for his size, yes, but then not many have shone in the last few seasons have they.
I'd keep hold, indeed I'd keep Fash as well, we got shot of Green which I thought was a mistake but we can't be getting rid simply on the basis players aren't coming through as the next Burgess and/or not playing many games early in their careers.

Re: Salford v Hull 9th August Headlngley : Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:50 am  

Hes 24 and not pushing on, I don't understand why anyone doesn't see that, he's not pushing our starting props, he's not holding down a place. He's not assertive like Brown when he plays, his Carry stats make him look very lazy.

I didn't mention Burgess, I mentioned Byrne and Partington at Wigan, I also mentioned Jack Brown all who can be compared to Matongo.

It's a valid point I stand by it.

Jack Brown over Matongo, and if that's the case I'd let the 24 year old 8th choice prop go

Re: Salford v Hull 9th August Headlngley : Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:09 am  

Here we go.....

Jamie Shaul, Bureta Faraimo, Carlos Tuimavave, Josh Griffin, Jake Connor, Marc Sneyd, Danny Houghton, Chris Satae, Josh Jones, Manu Ma’u, Ligi Sao, Albert Kelly, Joe Cator, Jordan Johnstone, Brad Fash, Jordan Lane, Josh Bowden, Andre Savelio, Mahe Fonua, Gareth Ellis, Ratu Naulago.

Re: Salford v Hull 9th August Headlngley : Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:45 pm  

Can't wait! Just got my stream code through too!

Re: Salford v Hull 9th August Headlngley : Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:47 pm  

ccs wrote:

Here we go.....

Jamie Shaul, Bureta Faraimo, Carlos Tuimavave, Josh Griffin, Jake Connor, Marc Sneyd, Danny Houghton, Chris Satae, Josh Jones, Manu Ma’u, Ligi Sao, Albert Kelly, Joe Cator, Jordan Johnstone, Brad Fash, Jordan Lane, Josh Bowden, Andre Savelio, Mahe Fonua, Gareth Ellis, Ratu Naulago.

Kelly to start, Connor on the bench

Re: Salford v Hull 9th August Headlngley : Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:32 pm  

Wilde 3 wrote:

Kelly to start, Connor on the bench

i agree

Re: Salford v Hull 9th August Headlngley : Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:37 pm  

bonaire wrote:

i agree

Hope so but i can see it being the other way around with Connor moving to centre and Griff to back row when Albey comes on.

Re: Salford v Hull 9th August Headlngley : Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:22 pm  

The Camels Hump wrote:

What’s Kelly’s shape ? Sorry, just not seen anything

From the 1 picture I've seen of him lately I'd say he's round.

Re: Salford v Hull 9th August Headlngley : Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:11 pm  

Hope Bowden gets a start

Re: Salford v Hull 9th August Headlngley : Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:38 pm  

MorningGlory23 wrote:

Hope Bowden gets a start

Hope he performs, been below par for some time.