Re: More Rumours!! : Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:23 am  

Scott moore signed for Widnes

Re: More Rumours!! : Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:57 am  

PAUL M wrote:

The rumour is Joel to Saracens and Sam going to RU next year.

Sam is absolute class and will be a massive loss to Super League.

The salary cap needs to be looked at to try and stop our best young players leaving for RU.

Also international RL needs looking at.

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: More Rumours!! : Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:39 am  

GEvans75 wrote:

Sam is absolute class and will be a massive loss to Super League.

The salary cap needs to be looked at to try and stop our best young players leaving for RU.

Also international RL needs looking at.

Joel T to Saracens for £400k a season is looking nailed on now. I can only assume the RFU will be funding part of that - as a game we just can't compete with that.

According to a very liable source Sam T was offered £500k a season to go to Saracens but has turned it down and told them his price was £1m and he wouldn't discuss until after the 4 Nations - they are coming back to him after the 4 Nations with an offer he can't refuse.

Given the state of the England RU side I can see them panicking and throwing money at other young RL players as well.

Re: More Rumours!! : Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:44 am  

Mate just told me there was an article in League Weekly yesterday where Mccrae stated our recruitment is complete. Did anyone else read this?

Re: More Rumours!! : Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:47 am  

Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy wrote:

Joel T to Saracens for £400k a season is looking nailed on now. I can only assume the RFU will be funding part of that - as a game we just can't compete with that.

According to a very liable source Sam T was offered £500k a season to go to Saracens but has turned it down and told them his price was £1m and he wouldn't discuss until after the 4 Nations - they are coming back to him after the 4 Nations with an offer he can't refuse.

Given the state of the England RU side I can't see them panicking and throwing money at other young RL players as well.

Massive shame for Wigan and the sport in general (whatever people say about those two as characters) if this happens. There's really not a lot English RL can do about it though, if you changed the salary cap to accommodate these situations you'd have to do it across the board, and some clubs would use that rope to hang themselves in the long run.

Re: More Rumours!! : Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:16 pm  

GEvans75 wrote:

Sam is absolute class and will be a massive loss to Super League.

I won't be sorry to see the back of him. Ronaldo is a classy footballer, but I never enjoyed watching him because of his horrendous attitude. Sam Tomkins falls into the same category.

Re: More Rumours!! : Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:21 pm  

Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy wrote:

Joel T to Saracens for £400k a season is looking nailed on now. I can only assume the RFU will be funding part of that - as a game we just can't compete with that.

According to a very liable source Sam T was offered £500k a season to go to Saracens but has turned it down and told them his price was £1m and he wouldn't discuss until after the 4 Nations - they are coming back to him after the 4 Nations with an offer he can't refuse.

Given the state of the England RU side I can see them panicking and throwing money at other young RL players as well.

Unions salary cap is £4m so that's a hell of a slice out of their cap or does that include England appearance money etc.

Re: More Rumours!! : Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:26 pm  

Rock God X wrote:

I won't be sorry to see the back of him. Ronaldo is a classy footballer, but I never enjoyed watching him because of his horrendous attitude. Sam Tomkins falls into the same category.

He's arrogant but i don't mind that.

I can't remember the last time this Country produced a player so naturally gifted and hats of to Wigan for that.

The only player I dislike is Ryan Bailey, Jon Wilkin spoke about him after the Grand Final and what he said about the fool was very interesting.

Re: More Rumours!! : Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:30 pm  

GEvans75 wrote:

He's arrogant but i don't mind that.

I can't remember the last time this Country produced a player so naturally gifted and hats of to Wigan for that.

The only player I dislike is Ryan Bailey, Jon Wilkin spoke about him after the Grand Final and what he said about the fool was very interesting.

Yer, Wilkin has an unfortunate habit of whinging after their grand final defeats though. He's spot on about Bailey (I bet half the Leeds team agree with him), but he needs to choose his moments more carefully.

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: More Rumours!! : Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:42 pm  

major black wrote:

Unions salary cap is £4m so that's a hell of a slice out of their cap or does that include England appearance money etc.

The RFU are contributing to the £400k is what I've been told.

The union cap has a number of clauses so it's actually considerably more than £4m if you use it wisely, e.g. A "marquee" player doesn't count at all (it has to be either an overseas player or someone who has come through the club's academy - so that wouldn't be Tomkins), the first £30k of X number of players who have come through the club's academy doesn't count etc.