: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:16 pm  

wolfie wrote:

i agree mate and agar knows he needs replacing,but whos available thats worth a decent 2 year contract,we also need a centre and a 7 but same again whos available.

he will prove you wrong mate

I wouldnt have signed Crocker and brought in Ryles. The guy will rip the SL apart.

I really hope he does.

: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:18 pm  

The Key wrote:

In terms of the actual quality of Calderwood and Crocker, no. And Maloney is a straight swap for Wheeldon really. But in terms of what positions needed to be strengthened/the quality of Thorman for what we need, then our recruitment has been very poor so far

we needed a decent player who will organise the team he was the only one available,how many times in the past has he kicked us to death in games?in my opinion thorman and horne will be a good partnership.

: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:18 pm  

wolfie wrote:

your some supporter,will you be going to watch them if you think there going to fail

I've followed the team through thick and thin for 35 years mate. Just because I don't look at the club through B&W tinted specs doesn't make me any less of a supporter

: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:19 pm  

Superbowl Scott wrote:

I wouldnt have signed Crocker and brought in Ryles. The guy will rip the SL apart.

I really hope he does.

we may not of had the opportunity to sign him.

: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:20 pm  

stighead wrote:

who!!

Crock -adile dykes. Took us to wembley

: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:20 pm  

wolfie wrote:

we needed a decent player who will organise the team he was the only one available,how many times in the past has he kicked us to death in games?in my opinion thorman and horne will be a good partnership.

I for one hope you are right. As I said earlier I see Horne back equal to a new signing I think we missed him more then most last season.

: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:24 pm  

wolfie wrote:

we needed a decent player who will organise the team he was the only one available,how many times in the past has he kicked us to death in games?in my opinion thorman and horne will be a good partnership.

Thats the thing, he is only 'decent.' And with the kicking thing, we have always been weak against teams with a good kicker. O'Neil won games single handedly for Widnes against us with his kicking.
Thorman is alright but he wasn't what we needed. Agar says he isn't going to rush into signings but to me it looks like he has done there as I can't see how Thorman has given any evidence in his many seasons playing RL, that he is good enough for a top 4 team

: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:25 pm  

Well i may as well go and get my money back off my pass as we are doomed to failure...............how anybody can say how we are going to play is frigging beyond me....yes there are faults with the team that have been here since Mcrae left and succesive coaches havent rectified it..some made it worse.

Payers are not available and it we make a signing for the sake of it,everybody on here will be up in arms as to why we have got medicroty again......suggesting we should have got Ryles instead of Crocker is a good example.....we didnt know then that Carvell was going to dick us around and Crocker was available and we got him.How was we to know Carvell was going to act the 2@...if we had hung on and missed out on them both...jesus it would have been meltdown on here.

: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:28 pm  

The Key wrote:

Thats the thing, he is only 'decent.' And with the kicking thing, we have always been weak against teams with a good kicker. O'Neil won games single handedly for Widnes against us with his kicking.
Thorman is alright but he wasn't what we needed. Agar says he isn't going to rush into signings but to me it looks like he has done there as I can't see how Thorman has given any evidence in his many seasons playing RL, that he is good enough for a top 4 team

He is a damn site more decent than what we do have......who else was out there...Carney yes but he brings a lot of baggage and may get banged up yet.

What did we need then?

: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:29 pm  

The Key wrote:

Thats the thing, he is only 'decent.' And with the kicking thing, we have always been weak against teams with a good kicker. O'Neil won games single handedly for Widnes against us with his kicking.
Thorman is alright but he wasn't what we needed. Agar says he isn't going to rush into signings but to me it looks like he has done there as I can't see how Thorman has given any evidence in his many seasons playing RL, that he is good enough for a top 4 team

lets try again lewis.

we needed a half back WHO ELSE WAS AVAILABLE