Re: Childs : Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:26 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

And still no one, not one of you, has even remotely suggested a proposal that could solve, what is hardly a new problem.

Carry on with your pitchforks

More investment for referee training?
More investment in training refs to be more consistent?
Remove referees from super league who cant help having an agenda against certain clubs ( especially the ones who state how much they hate Hull FC when they're wazzed up) FACT!

Re: Childs : Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:29 pm  

Sporting Life quotes from Agar. "I'm angry. I saw this bloke referee a trial game between Salford and Hull KR and I thought: 'I'm dreading when we get him'. "Sure enough he's backed it up, just a disgraceful performance. I've got seasoned Test players in there coming in shaking their heads in disbelief. I thought both sides came to play, the game started great, a good tempo, everybody into it and it never got any flow and was punctuated by ridiculous decisions. "It's just been a good game and a good spectacle completely ruined by one bloke." Sean Long, Hull's veteran scrum-half, watched by best friend and out-of-favour Wigan centre Martin Gleeson who Agar denied he is looking to sign, was sent off with four minutes to go for an apparent elbow-led tackle, moments after he had returned from the sin bin. "If you're going to sin bin people for that, sin bin everyone, not just one and be selective," Agar added. "Sean Long has has been dead-set cleaned out on their line at the end there, not even a penalty. "Absolutely cleaned out around the head, the same as he was on the sin-bin. Absolutely baffling. They couldn't even get the clock stopped properly. "I've had the benefit of watching it on video and when he (Long) went in to score that try he was cleaned out. Plain and simple cleaned out, and he said he didn't know where he was. "He said he tried to shoulder charge a tackle and from what I saw he completely missed contact. A player of Castleford has ran 50 metres and begged for him to be sent off, which is ordinary. "I don't know what the point is talking about the game, the game was completely ruined by him (Child). It's baffling. We've all come, so many fans from both sides. It was just completely ruined as a spectacle by him. "He (Child) won't be under pressure will he? He'll be backing up in Super League next week and we'll get a sheet round telling us all his decisions have been the right ones, I guarantee you that." Agar's rant, which included him saying Child was "100%" the reason why his side lost, was followed by Hull chairperson Kath Hetherington entering the media room, looking to speak to the match commissioner.

Sporting Life quotes from Agar. "I'm angry. I saw this bloke referee a trial game between Salford and Hull KR and I thought: 'I'm dreading when we get him'. "Sure enough he's backed it up, just a disgraceful performance. I've got seasoned Test players in there coming in shaking their heads in disbelief. I thought both sides came to play, the game started great, a good tempo, everybody into it and it never got any flow and was punctuated by ridiculous decisions. "It's just been a good game and a good spectacle completely ruined by one bloke." Sean Long, Hull's veteran scrum-half, watched by best friend and out-of-favour Wigan centre Martin Gleeson who Agar denied he is looking to sign, was sent off with four minutes to go for an apparent elbow-led tackle, moments after he had returned from the sin bin. "If you're going to sin bin people for that, sin bin everyone, not just one and be selective," Agar added. "Sean Long has has been dead-set cleaned out on their line at the end there, not even a penalty. "Absolutely cleaned out around the head, the same as he was on the sin-bin. Absolutely baffling. They couldn't even get the clock stopped properly. "I've had the benefit of watching it on video and when he (Long) went in to score that try he was cleaned out. Plain and simple cleaned out, and he said he didn't know where he was. "He said he tried to shoulder charge a tackle and from what I saw he completely missed contact. A player of Castleford has ran 50 metres and begged for him to be sent off, which is ordinary. "I don't know what the point is talking about the game, the game was completely ruined by him (Child). It's baffling. We've all come, so many fans from both sides. It was just completely ruined as a spectacle by him. "He (Child) won't be under pressure will he? He'll be backing up in Super League next week and we'll get a sheet round telling us all his decisions have been the right ones, I guarantee you that." Agar's rant, which included him saying Child was "100%" the reason why his side lost, was followed by Hull chairperson Kath Hetherington entering the media room, looking to speak to the match commissioner.

Re: Childs : Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:31 pm  

An utter rat of a ref. Trigger happy. Normally when we win, i generally don't think about the ref too much, but once again this guy does his damnedest to ruin a good game of rugby. No wonder both sets of players were riled up. He sin binned 3 players in our game v wakey, 3 plus a red tonight. He's an idiot. Fans, coaches of all sides on the winning and losing side can see it, why cant the rfl? Bring back Ashley Klein!

Re: Childs : Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:31 pm  

Locko's Luck wrote:

Is there such a thing as a referee academy Coddy, If not Why?

The selection and promotion of referees has always been something of a mysterious and less than transparent process. That is exacerbated by the fact that so few people choose that path in the game. Little will change until concerted efforts are made to ensure that every single game, from U 9s up is adjudicated by a neutral referee.

Unfortunately match officials are viewed as a necessary evil and not as an integral element of the game, that should be continually developed. Until we get a broader base to the pyramid, we will always struggle to find consistency at the top of it.

Re: Childs : Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:32 pm  

Is James Childs related to Rob Burrows?

Cracking quotes from Agar there. He is lacking in a lot of areas but its refreshing to hear such brutal honesty about a match official

Re: Childs : Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:36 pm  

Towns88 wrote:

An utter rat of a ref. Trigger happy. Normally when we win, i generally don't think about the ref too much, but once again this guy does his damnedest to ruin a good game of rugby. No wonder both sets of players were riled up. He sin binned 3 players in our game v wakey, 3 plus a red tonight. He's an idiot. Fans, coaches of all sides on the winning and losing side can see it, why cant the rfl? Bring back Ashley Klein!

another poster with sense. I dont mind my team losing and even if he reffed it better hull still may have lost. What has happened is 11,000 plus people have been robbed a good flowing game of rugby. No matter who had won both sides could have been happy. Thouroughly spoiled.

Re: Childs : Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:36 pm  

Sheldon wrote:

I'd look at the two ref system.

We obviously haven't got seven referees of sufficient standard, where do you suggest we get fourteen from?

Re: Childs : Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:39 pm  

ComeOnYouUll wrote: Sporting Life quotes from Agar. "I'm angry. I saw this bloke referee a trial game between Salford and Hull KR and I thought: 'I'm dreading when we get him'. "Sure enough he's backed it up, just a disgraceful performance. I've got seasoned Test players in there coming in shaking their heads in disbelief. I thought both sides came to play, the game started great, a good tempo, everybody into it and it never got any flow and was punctuated by ridiculous decisions. "It's just been a good game and a good spectacle completely ruined by one bloke." Sean Long, Hull's veteran scrum-half, watched by best friend and out-of-favour Wigan centre Martin Gleeson who Agar denied he is looking to sign, was sent off with four minutes to go for an apparent elbow-led tackle, moments after he had returned from the sin bin. "If you're going to sin bin people for that, sin bin everyone, not just one and be selective," Agar added. "Sean Long has has been dead-set cleaned out on their line at the end there, not even a penalty. "Absolutely cleaned out around the head, the same as he was on the sin-bin. Absolutely baffling. They couldn't even get the clock stopped properly. "I've had the benefit of watching it on video and when he (Long) went in to score that try he was cleaned out. Plain and simple cleaned out, and he said he didn't know where he was. "He said he tried to shoulder charge a tackle and from what I saw he completely missed contact. A player of Castleford has ran 50 metres and begged for him to be sent off, which is ordinary. "I don't know what the point is talking about the game, the game was completely ruined by him (Child). It's baffling. We've all come, so many fans from both sides. It was just completely ruined as a spectacle by him. "He (Child) won't be under pressure will he? He'll be backing up in Super League next week and we'll get a sheet round telling us all his decisions have been the right ones, I guarantee you that." Agar's rant, which included him saying Child was "100%" the reason why his side lost, was followed by Hull chairperson Kath Hetherington entering the media room, looking to speak to the match commissioner. There may be trouble ahead. Jesus. Still, good to see some backbone there. Hope we don't get points docked for bringing the game into disrepute. What a kerfuffle.

ComeOnYouUll wrote: Sporting Life quotes from Agar. "I'm angry. I saw this bloke referee a trial game between Salford and Hull KR and I thought: 'I'm dreading when we get him'. "Sure enough he's backed it up, just a disgraceful performance. I've got seasoned Test players in there coming in shaking their heads in disbelief. I thought both sides came to play, the game started great, a good tempo, everybody into it and it never got any flow and was punctuated by ridiculous decisions. "It's just been a good game and a good spectacle completely ruined by one bloke." Sean Long, Hull's veteran scrum-half, watched by best friend and out-of-favour Wigan centre Martin Gleeson who Agar denied he is looking to sign, was sent off with four minutes to go for an apparent elbow-led tackle, moments after he had returned from the sin bin. "If you're going to sin bin people for that, sin bin everyone, not just one and be selective," Agar added. "Sean Long has has been dead-set cleaned out on their line at the end there, not even a penalty. "Absolutely cleaned out around the head, the same as he was on the sin-bin. Absolutely baffling. They couldn't even get the clock stopped properly. "I've had the benefit of watching it on video and when he (Long) went in to score that try he was cleaned out. Plain and simple cleaned out, and he said he didn't know where he was. "He said he tried to shoulder charge a tackle and from what I saw he completely missed contact. A player of Castleford has ran 50 metres and begged for him to be sent off, which is ordinary. "I don't know what the point is talking about the game, the game was completely ruined by him (Child). It's baffling. We've all come, so many fans from both sides. It was just completely ruined as a spectacle by him. "He (Child) won't be under pressure will he? He'll be backing up in Super League next week and we'll get a sheet round telling us all his decisions have been the right ones, I guarantee you that." Agar's rant, which included him saying Child was "100%" the reason why his side lost, was followed by Hull chairperson Kath Hetherington entering the media room, looking to speak to the match commissioner. There may be trouble ahead. Jesus. Still, good to see some backbone there. Hope we don't get points docked for bringing the game into disrepute. What a kerfuffle.

Re: Childs : Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:40 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

There may be trouble ahead. Jesus. Still, good to see some backbone there. Hope we don't get points docked for bringing the game into disrepute. What a kerfuffle.

i was hoping agar would come out with something to back his players up. They worked hard tonight

Re: Childs : Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:40 pm  

Towns88 wrote:

An utter rat of a ref. Trigger happy. Normally when we win, i generally don't think about the ref too much, but once again this guy does his damnedest to ruin a good game of rugby. No wonder both sets of players were riled up. He sin binned 3 players in our game v wakey, 3 plus a red tonight. He's an idiot. Fans, coaches of all sides on the winning and losing side can see it, why cant the rfl? Bring back Ashley Klein!

well said