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Re: What now? : Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:23 am  
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Things may have changed though, as the article is from July, but although he's class his salary would be marque plus, as the Roosters are already paying well above what most can afford.
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Things may have changed though, as the article is from July, but although he's class his salary would be marque plus, as the Roosters are already paying well above what most can afford.
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Re: What now? : Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:33 am  
Dave K. wrote:
We have two young halfbacks, they should be given priority to play halfback particularly Hookem, who I think might break through this year.


Never seen Hookem thought he was a hooker?
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Re: What now? : Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:48 am  
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Never seen Hookem thought he was a hooker?


Scrum half, who has played a few games at hooker

Excellent when I've seen him in the academy and for Yorkshire, very high thought of.
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Re: What now? : Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:14 pm  
Think the club will really make a big effort with building pathways for Academy players now.
It’s the only way to go, and only way we’ll ever compete at the top end.
Glad they’ve got someone from outside the club in to overlook the Academy.
I’m hoping BH gives them a go next year if the opportunity arises.
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Re: What now? : Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:16 pm  
Academy hookers called Finley Yeaman
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Re: What now? : Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:17 pm  
Interesting take, though some spelling errors make it a difficult read on some paragraphs.
It’s here for you to read or not - ccs.
By STEVE MASCORD

KNEE-length trousers with belts, handlebar moustaches, fans in suits with cloth caps.

The footage that emerged this week of a game between Wigan and Hull from The Boulevard in 1902 was indeed magical. The colourised film was post on Twitter by a rugby film archive.

But there were other aspects of the film which reminded me of a recent preoccupation of mine: what IS rugby league? How do you define it?

Because Hull and Wigan each had 15 players on the pitch. There were rucks. There were mauls. I’m pretty sure I can see a line out.

Predictably, when I Tweeted the video, an Aussie said it was “not rugby league”. A South African said ‘union then?’. One clever fellow responded with a picture of a Model T Ford and posited that it was “not a car”.

But while for those of your caught up in the daily news cycle of the game, this may be pseudo-intellectual nonsense, having a position on what rugby league actually is can help you interpret and contextualise modern developments.

When a ‘rebel’ competition pops up, are those running it bad? When Peter V’landys changes a rule or makes a field goal worth two points, is he vandalising the sport?

As I tried to explain to the South African and the Australia, rugby league broke away in 1895 not as a new sport but as a social movement - if you’re Tony Collins - or a parochial and commercially voracious northern rugby union competition - if you’re Tom Mather.

Breakaways were only dispensed with in 1907.

The rules changed because it didn’t have to do what Twickenham told it to do after 1895. It changed the rules to make itself more attractive because it could, not because it wanted to distinguish itself from rugby union.

When International Rugby League goes to governments in Morocco, the UAE or South Africa and asks for recognition as a separate sport, those governments come back and ask why a Victorian-era boardroom schism in England have any impact on them in 2021? Rugby of all types is now an openly professional sport - why should they recognised two bodies to run it in their countries?

South Africa and the UAE will, it transpires, not. Rugby league will be overseen in this countries but rugby union authorities.

So what is rugby league? What defines it? For 12 years it had 15 players, no play-the-ball. For the last two years it had no scrums. The value of tries, drop goals and goals have all been fiddled with.

What is this thing that we have all spent much of our lives watching, taking about, writing about, spending money on?

I keep coming back to an answer that you might find unsettling. It’s apparent watching that restored footage. Clearly it’s rugby league because it’s Hull playing Wigan and that was outside the auspices of the Rugby Football Union.

Rugby league is, simply, that which is not rugby union.

It’s only rugby league because its run by rugby league administrators, the group that led the schism in the first place.

So James Maloney was wrong when he said “the players are your most important commodity. Without them, there is no game. Everyone who works around it are just accessories."

Without administrators, it wouldn’t be rugby league. And Jimmy would be a rugby union player.
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Re: What now? : Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:22 am  
Leeds Rhinos have confirmed the signing on Tonga and New Zealand international winger David Fusitu'a on a two year contract
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Re: What now? : Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:39 am  
thinking about this when read about Shenton

who was the last International class player that the academy produced ?

don’t say Shaul as FC rejected him as a youth and then Rovers did hence he was laying bricks

Paul King ?
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Re: What now? : Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:48 am  
Tarquin Fuego wrote:
thinking about this when read about Shenton

who was the last International class player that the academy produced ?

don’t say Shaul as FC rejected him as a youth and then Rovers did hence he was laying bricks

Paul King ?


Dean Hadley (England Knights) ?
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Re: What now? : Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:58 am  
Riderofthepalehorse wrote:
Tarquin Fuego wrote:
thinking about this when read about Shenton

who was the last International class player that the academy produced ?

don’t say Shaul as FC rejected him as a youth and then Rovers did hence he was laying bricks

Paul King ?


Dean Hadley (England Knights) ?


TBH you'd probably have to say Yeaman
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