[Kosh]

: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:39 pm  

downtheante wrote:

Agar for me. I want to see him have a fair crack of the whip over a decent period of time. There is no relegation and, therefore, we should not hurry to damn an up-and-coming British coach. And let's judge him when he's putting out the team that we have invested in. No-one is asking how well all of the other teams are doing without two of their best signings. If our two were here we'd be a better team: if we knew they weren't coming we might have been able to spend the money elsewhere. At the moment, a large part of the salary cap is just not generating anything for us on the pitch. Take a couple of spark-plugs out of your car and see what happens.

Where's the evidence for that?

Otherwise some good points well made. Agar's luck hasn't been any better than Peter Sharpe's in many respects, but on the other hand he seems to be equally unable to deal with it.

Compare with how Wakey managed earlier this season...

: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:39 pm  

downtheante wrote:

Right that's it - time for a beer.

Was it something I said?

: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:49 pm  

Paul King, player coach

: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:56 pm  

Mr Angry wrote:

Was it something I said?

No it's just nearly 8:00 over here and it really is time for a beer. I've posted way too muck b0ll0cks on here for one day and I thought I'd give you all a rest.

Cheers all

: Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:52 pm  

David Watts wrote:

I agree mate - some Leeds fans are not happy with their coach, nor Bradford with theirs. Warrington are still near the bottom, which is where Catalans were a few weeks ago. Wigan are still four points below us despite playing one game more.

Let's get things in perspective (difficult for some people on here, I know) - yes, we are playing poorly at the minute, but so are a lot of other teams. We need to get off his back and see how he copes with this run of poor results - that will determine how good he and the rest of the coaching set up really are.

The idea of accepting our own mediocrity due to the fact other teams are playing poorly is a very weak arguement. We have played poorly ever since Agar took over. Even when we were winning our first five games, we barely played with consistancy. We could have easily lost against Wigan, Hudds and Celtic. There are tons of problems with the team, which is down to both players and the coaching set up. I want a new coaching set up and I want them to get the players to either shape up or not give them new contracts until they do, thus meaning crap players will eventually leave. If there wasn't a salary cap and we had the money, I would have backed any new coach to release players

: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:06 pm  

I agree that Agar has got to be given time; it wasnt that long ago people were hailing him as one of the best british coaches after the start we made to the season

hopeful he can turn it around but if he doesnt i don't want to see jon sharp taking over. The right man has got to be Stephen Keareny with Richard Swain as his assitant -

you can always have a dream

: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:13 pm  

Don't know why Swain's name keeps coming up in all this speculation about a potential new coach. After his supposed involvement in the whole Kear situation, I don't think I'd want him back at the club.

: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:24 pm  

If we played to any sort of gameplan, or looked capable of playing the game at pace, or had movement off the ball to cause uncertainty in defence, or played with width, hell, if we even looked like the players saw each other between games, then I'd be prepared to give agar a chance. But we don't, we haven't since mcrae left. agar has learnt his trade under 2 "failed" coaches and it shows on the pitch. Time is running out for the club. People's patience will disappear this year with no wembley appearance and crowds will start to fall. The club cannot allow the decline to continue and must act IMO

: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:47 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

If we played to any sort of gameplan, or looked capable of playing the game at pace, or had movement off the ball to cause uncertainty in defence, or played with width, hell, if we even looked like the players saw each other between games, then I'd be prepared to give agar a chance. But we don't, we haven't since mcrae left. agar has learnt his trade under 2 "failed" coaches and it shows on the pitch. Time is running out for the club. People's patience will disappear this year with no wembley appearance and crowds will start to fall. The club cannot allow the decline to continue and must act IMO

Good post Jake.
Some of our interchange decisions have been beyond belief at times.
Sadly, Agar is not the right man to lead our club. We deserve better!
Stephen Keareny with his discipline would do for me please.

Re: Who would.......... : Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:38 pm  

The HULL FC Rocker wrote: you like to succeed Mr Agar if he goes and Mr Sharp doesn't want the job............ Shane Webcke!? http://www.smh.com.au/leaguehq/articles/2009/04/06/1238869880326.html FIRST the pulp and then the gulp. Shane Webcke swallowed his pride yesterday, quitting his coaching role with the Broncos in the wake of the controversy surrounding his new book.

The HULL FC Rocker wrote: you like to succeed Mr Agar if he goes and Mr Sharp doesn't want the job............ Shane Webcke!? http://www.smh.com.au/leaguehq/articles/2009/04/06/1238869880326.html FIRST the pulp and then the gulp. Shane Webcke swallowed his pride yesterday, quitting his coaching role with the Broncos in the wake of the controversy surrounding his new book.